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Old 11-23-2015, 05:55 PM   #331
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To the last sentence of the immediately prior post ..... which is pushing this whole discussion too close to a dangerous field ...... which is why I though the thread was NOW ready to be closed. Sorry. But I would prefer we stop arguing about this and find a different subject.

Alternately, I could just go away for a few hours and read something else!
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Old 11-23-2015, 05:57 PM   #332
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To the last sentence of the immediately prior post ..... which is pushing this whole discussion too close to a dangerous field ...... which is why I though the thread was NOW ready to be closed. Sorry. But I would prefer we stop arguing about this and find a different subject.

Alternately, I could just go away for a few hours and read something else!
Given the date and how close it is to Hanukkah and Christmas, I highly doubt Amazon would release new Kindles now. Amazon has never released in December and not this close to December.
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To the last sentence of the immediately prior post ..... which is pushing this whole discussion too close to a dangerous field ...... which is why I though the thread was NOW ready to be closed. Sorry. But I would prefer we stop arguing about this and find a different subject.

Alternately, I could just go away for a few hours and read something else!
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:34 PM   #334
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Given the date and how close it is to Hanukkah and Christmas, I highly doubt Amazon would release new Kindles now. Amazon has never released in December and not this close to December.
You are probably right but one never knows.
So any plans for the eat yourself into oblivion holiday?
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:33 PM   #335
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Given the date and how close it is to Hanukkah and Christmas, I highly doubt Amazon would release new Kindles now. Amazon has never released in December and not this close to December.
You're wrong.

My inside sources tell me that this is only a temporary delay.

Apparently the unicorn, the one that was supposed to fart the rainbows which would be used in the new Kindle's screen, is constipated. But don't worry; she's been given a double dose of ex-lax.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:37 PM   #336
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You are probably right but one never knows.
So any plans for the eat yourself into oblivion holiday?
We are going out for a Christmas meal and then to my daughter-in-law's house for the immediate family to have nibbles and dessert.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:05 PM   #337
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We are going out for a Christmas meal and then to my daughter-in-law's house for the immediate family to have nibbles and dessert.
How about the earlier one, this Thursday, Thanksgiving? (I thought she meant that one.)
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:32 PM   #338
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Yes, I meant Thanksgiving.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:43 PM   #339
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How about the earlier one, this Thursday, Thanksgiving? (I thought she meant that one.)
This year is going to be different. It's going to be my wife & in-laws. We are going to go out to eat.

Normally it's thanksgiving at my sister's with the immediate family. But this year is going to be different.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:46 PM   #340
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I am Jewish so it's my holiday too.
As I responded to HarryT above.

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Could you imagine Jewish children not getting gifts while their friends who celebrate Christmas got gifts? That would never work.
I don't need to imagine it... it works just fine. For me and every other Jewish kid I've ever known -- though I will admit to mostly knowing chasidic/yeshivish/orthodox/modox types.


And my main point was and still is, that I don't think a statistically significant number of people want to give gifts for Chanukah and not for Christmas, such that Amazon should stage a product release to accommodate them.
  • Jews are a minority.
  • Frum Jews are an even smaller minority.
  • There is no pervasive culture of gift-giving in this minority.
  • In the event that someone celebrates both Chanukah and Christmas (as was said above), they won't buy the same thing twice.

It is a small enough target that Amazon won't bite, even without considering that no one else does so either.

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Besides, Christmas is not supposed to be about gifts but about celebrating Jesus. Look where that ended up.
I never said Christmas wasn't secularized. I said I don't think Chanukah will be secularized in the same way.

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It won't fly, not at all, in the frum velt. The secular velt is busy dying out within three generations.


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I'm not bothered. I'm not going to get into a I know my religion better than you do argument. It's childish and silly.
Good. Neither am I.

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But I do think Hanukkah is overlooked. It's like all there is is Christmas in December.
I keep on saying this: Chanukah is overlooked because it isn't statistically significant the way Christmas is.

(And maybe... because most frum Jews are happy to be overlooked since they don't care anyway?)
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Why two different spellings of the Jewish holiday that I can't spell?
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Why two different spellings of the Jewish holiday that I can't spell?
English has no concept of the guttural "ch".
Hebrew, Aramaic, German, and apparently Scottish English ("loch"?) do.
Google says it is the voiceless velar fricative.


Sheer force of habit, maybe, as I usually speak Yinglish, or rather, Yeshivish.
The word "Hanukkah" is an anglicized form of "Chanukah", for pandering to people who don't have those gutturals; it stops them from doing amusing things with "k"s.
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