Buttering your toast. - Page 14

ahammer · 07-13-2009, 02:10 PM

per wikipedia seems that it is not french at all but maybe roman in orgin

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The precise origins of the recipe are unknown, although a version appears in the 4th century Roman cookbook, often attributed to Apicius ("Aliter dulcia: siligineos rasos frangis, et buccellas maiores facies. in lacte infundis, frigis [et] in oleo, mel superfundis et inferes." - "Another sweet: Break grated Sigilines (a kind of wheat bread), and make larger bites. Soak in milk, fry in oil, douse in honey and serve."). This was also known as Pan Dulcis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_toast

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wonder where I got the other idea from

Moejoe · 07-13-2009, 02:18 PM

Ahh you mean 'eggy bread'... that's the proper name for it

zelda_pinwheel · 07-13-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ahammer

per wikipedia seems that it is not french at all but maybe roman in orgin

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wonder where I got the other idea from

i dunno but you anglophones seem to like attributing various recipes to french... like "french fries" everybody knows the belgians invented those !

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Ahh you mean 'eggy bread'... that's the proper name for it

ahammer · 07-13-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i dunno but you anglophones seem to like attributing various recipes to french... like "french fries" everybody knows the belgians invented those !

till we get all mad at you then we call them freedom fries.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-13-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ahammer

till we get all mad at you then we call them freedom fries.

we all had a good laugh about that one.

ahammer · 07-13-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i dunno but you anglophones seem to like attributing various recipes to french... like "french fries" everybody knows the belgians invented those !

no limits on this to the french thou.
as there is

Chinese food thing most of what we call Chinese food was made in the us to please US maybe that is why it is so fatty?
Or the fortune cookie that was made in the US. Then sold in the US as the Chinese fortune cookie and in China as the American fortune cookie… btw why do they never have fortune in them they seem to just have antidote.

Or the Mexican food thing does have some roots there but lots of the items has roots in the US.

kazbates · 07-13-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i dunno but you anglophones seem to like attributing various recipes to french... like "french fries" everybody knows the belgians invented those !

Personally, I think it's because we associate really good food with French cooking. I was at the Smithsonian's American History Museum yesterday and saw the Julia Child's exhibit. The had a monitor showing an interview that she did discussing French cooking and how she was able to introduce many French cooking techniques to "middle America" (my term, not hers). It was fascinating. They had a mock up of her kitchen containing many of the tools and appliances that she actually used including many of her old cookbooks. I need to go back on a weekday when there aren't so many people there to really get a good look around.

Sparrow · 07-13-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i dunno but you anglophones seem to like attributing various recipes to french... like "french fries" everybody knows the belgians invented those !

They do get the credit for Belgian buns (so the French probably invented them

).

wodin · 07-13-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

nope. zelda calls it "pain perdu" (lost bread). hm, now i wonder why it's called that. probably it is because it was a way to use stale bread that would otherwise be "lost".

Now that's what I'd call bread pudding! Which, by the way is the VERY BEST use for bread. French toast being second, Texas toast third and regular ole toast toast slobbered wi' butter being a distant forth; followed by PBJ sandwiches, Big Macs, etc. etc!

Patricia · 07-13-2009, 06:29 PM

As far as I can see, "French toast", "Eggy bread", and "Poor knights of Windsor" are the same thing. One dips slightly stale bread in milk, then in beaten egg and fries it. The resulting product may be sugared, otherwise sweetened, or added to a savoury course.

However bread pudding is either baked or steamed, and is an entirely different dish, though also pleasant if well-made.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-13-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

As far as I can see, "French toast", "Eggy bread", and "Poor knights of Windsor" are the same thing. One dips slightly stale bread in milk, then in beaten egg and fries it. The resulting product may be sugared, otherwise sweetened, or added to a savoury course.

However bread pudding is either baked or steamed, and is an entirely different dish, though also pleasant if well-made.

hm, now i'm wondering what bread pudding is like. it sounds like christmas pudding, is it ? do they hide prizes in it ?

ShortNCuddlyAm · 07-13-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Ahh you mean 'eggy bread'... that's the proper name for it

My family always call it gypsy toast for some reason!

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

They do get the credit for Belgian buns (so the French probably invented them

).

zelda_pinwheel · 07-13-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

My family always call it gypsy toast for some reason!

you brits and your crazy names !

"gypsy toast", "Poor knights of Windsor"... where on earth do you come up with them ?

i'm curious about those belgian buns though. if they make am drool they must be worth tasting.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 07-13-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

hm, now i'm wondering what bread pudding is like. it sounds like christmas pudding, is it ? do they hide prizes in it ?

Bread pudding is gorgeous! Especially the corners. Especially when there's enough sugar on top for it to be crunchy.

It looks something like this:

The best I have ever tasted was from a seafront kiosk in Ramsgate over 2 decades ago, but I've had some pretty good stuff elsewhere!

Wiki linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_pudding

ShortNCuddlyAm · 07-13-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

you brits and your crazy names !

"gypsy toast", "Poor knights of Windsor"... where on earth do you come up with them ?

No idea

You missed toad-in-the-hole as a crazy name

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i'm curious about those belgian buns though. if they make am drool they must be worth tasting.

They're sort-of like a more bun-like fruit danish pastry with icing on top.

Wiki (again

) suggests there's nothing to link Belgian Buns with Belgium, but the Belgians do make something similar called couque suisse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_bun

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Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	Ahh you mean 'eggy bread'... that's the proper name for it

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Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	As far as I can see, "French toast", "Eggy bread", and "Poor knights of Windsor" are the same thing. One dips slightly stale bread in milk, then in beaten egg and fries it. The resulting product may be sugared, otherwise sweetened, or added to a savoury course. However bread pudding is either baked or steamed, and is an entirely different dish, though also pleasant if well-made.

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