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Old 07-01-2020, 12:03 PM   #76
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Wow...maybe it's just the lighting, but I can't get past how much better the contrast is on the Kobo.

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Agreed, also all the wasted space on the nook makes me cry. Less information is given on the nook yet the Kobo gives you more of the main text on the screen resulting in few page turns.

I’ll let Jon talk about the bezels if he’s inclined to comment further on the comparison, but they really do make the nook look bulky.
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:10 PM   #78
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In the photos, the Kobo looks better. The nook looks more washed out.
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Wow...maybe it's just the lighting, but I can't get past how much better the contrast is on the Kobo.
I think it was the light source. The lamp was right above the Nook. But to be fair it's likely also due to the Nook's flush screen vs the Kobo's sunken screen? In person, the Kobo is sharper than the Nook, but the difference isn't as pronounced as my photo makes it look.

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...all the wasted space on the nook makes me cry. Less information is given on the nook yet the Kobo gives you more of the main text on the screen resulting in few page turns.
Partly what you're seeing is kepub disrespecting CSS. Kobo always pushes the chapter headings up to the top of the screen. In this book, it doesn't look so bad. In others, with decorations around the chapter headings for instance, it looks bad.

On a normal page, the Kobo shows 23 lines of text and the Nook shows 22. But to get Kobo to show those 23 lines, I had to hack it to shrink the header and hide the footer.

Out of the box, Kobo can be pretty wasteful.

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I’ll let Jon talk about the bezels if he’s inclined to comment further on the comparison, but they really do make the nook look bulky.
I like the small size of the Clara, but to be honest, the Nook is more comfortable to hold. Maybe I just have large hands. But I appreciate the larger bezels and I like the pebbling on it.

One other thing is I think the Nook's layout is better. Even though the lines of text are the same, there's a large gap between 'Laws'' and 'place' on the second line. Those weird gaps show up often on the Kobo. Sometimes multiple times in the same sentence.

I've attached another photo*. This is text from a regular, in chapter page. Both readers have the front light cranked to 100%, both running Georgia. Better lighting conditions.

What I'm looking at here is the italicized paragraph, particularly the second line. Kepub spacing is a mess.

I'm not even saying Nook is better. Maybe Kobo's ePub renderer is just as good as Nook's. But I'm using Kobo's custom format on their device. They really should work on that thing.

*My Pixel tends to fisheye when I get too close to something, so if you see weirdness there, it's the camera, not either device. It also looks like the right hand edge of the photo started swimming out of focus. Sorry. I did the best with the tools I have available
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:27 PM   #79
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Partly what you're seeing is kepub disrespecting CSS. Kobo always pushes the chapter headings up to the top of the screen.
Not always, or maybe it depends on the CSS used, I’ve got a Game of Thrones collection that has the decorations from the chapters and the chapter heading is correctly placed. I’m not sure if it’s spot on to the physical book but it’s near enough as to make no difference. It’s a kepub converted from epub. Similarly I’ve got a Wheel of Time omnibus which displays the chapter decorations and chapter headings the same as the books. I’ll grant Kobo does behave as you describe as well as I’ve got a Harry Potter omnibus which lacks the chapter decorations entirely though I’m not sure if I removed them or not in my tinkering. Those chapter headings are pushed up though.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:07 PM   #80
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Most of the built-in fonts are too light (not enough contrast) for me. Probably an issue with my eyes.
Have you tried the font weight adjustments on Kobo? or does it still not get heavy enough for you?
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:11 PM   #81
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I've attached another photo*. This is text from a regular, in chapter page. Both readers have the front light cranked to 100%, both running Georgia. Better lighting conditions.

What I'm looking at here is the italicized paragraph, particularly the second line. Kepub spacing is a mess.

I'm not even saying Nook is better. Maybe Kobo's ePub renderer is just as good as Nook's. But I'm using Kobo's custom format on their device. They really should work on that thing.

*My Pixel tends to fisheye when I get too close to something, so if you see weirdness there, it's the camera, not either device. It also looks like the right hand edge of the photo started swimming out of focus. Sorry. I did the best with the tools I have available
It looks like the line height on the Kobo is larger then on the nook. Try using ePub vs. ePub and you'll see the Kobo will look even better.
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Old 07-01-2020, 04:22 PM   #82
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For epubcheck to be happy, you need to change "application/vnd.ms-opentype" to "font/otf". What I find funny is that instead of complaining about the font media-type in the content.opf, epubcheck complains about where the font-family entry is found either in a stylesheet or in a style declaration in a xhtml file.
I ran epubcheck on a few books that have the invalid font. Results varied. The invalid font is smaller in byte size than the valid version is. But in the cases where the font is invalid, the page it's used on displays fine, exactly as when the font is valid. Maybe it's an intentional subset of characters to keep the .opf smaller that, for whatever reason, triggers the error.

It's fine for my purposes. Nothing's amiss in the reading. But it's an interesting curiosity.
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Old 07-01-2020, 04:44 PM   #83
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It looks like the line height on the Kobo is larger then on the nook. Try using ePub vs. ePub and you'll see the Kobo will look even better.
I set the line height on the Kobo. I could squash it together more, but I choose not to. Surely you will agree that line height isn't what causes gaps in sentences.

And I've told you enough times that I'm not gonna switch to ePubs on Kobo.

I like Kobo. But they should do a better job on the format that they created. Kindle used to get grief for their poor layout and they changed it.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:20 PM   #84
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Kindle used to get grief for their poor layout and they changed it.
Unfortunately to achieve so-called better layout they invented the abomination which is KFX. The end of archive-friendly book formats as we used to know and love them.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:31 PM   #85
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As a graphic designer, I tend to use Publisher Default because, like you, I want to preserve the book designer’s vision for the book, be it with body text or headers. I haven’t encountered any of the monstrosities that others have complained about here, but if I ever do, I’m glad I can rectify it by selecting my own font. Not every book designer knows what they’re doing.

That being said, unlike pbooks, ebook design changes the moment users adjust side margins and font size. Layout becomes fluid. Soon nothing but the font remains of the original designer’s intensions. It’s both the reason I tend to stick with Publisher Default and why others have no regard for it.

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I like Kobo. But they should do a better job on the format that they created. ...
And at least fix what looks like a bug: no extra spaces after a period (that looks extremly weird).
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I set the line height on the Kobo. I could squash it together more, but I choose not to. Surely you will agree that line height isn't what causes gaps in sentences.

And I've told you enough times that I'm not gonna switch to ePubs on Kobo.

I like Kobo. But they should do a better job on the format that they created. Kindle used to get grief for their poor layout and they changed it.
Yes, Amazon changed to a DRM infected KFX where it is now getting more and more difficult to remove the DRM. So when the publisher doesn't want DRM, Amazon says "Screw you! We are putting in DRM.".

As for line height, you could call them gaps when the line height is too large.

Why would you not switch to ePub what with all the display issues with Access (KePub)? RMSDK (ePub) no longer slow to highlight and it's not too slow. Plus the display is much better. You can still go KePub if you are reading eBooks with images you may want to zoom and if the eBooks have footnotes. But for a bog standard novel, ePub is better.
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So how do you really feel about KFX?
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To be honest, I feel like a lot of you are way too picky! haha
It's not a case of being picky for me, but rather crappy eyesight to begin with that just gets worse as you get older. For years I stopped reading because the paperback text was just too small for me to read for more than 5 minutes at a time. Ereaders let me read again, but still I need better contrast and thicker text for my eyesight than what most fonts give you, or it's back to not reading again. I think many of us fall into this category.
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