Firmware 3.15 discussion thread

[Nick_1964]

In kepub hyphenation is in my language (Dutch / Netherlands) really totally wrong, it is so bad that it is almost impossible to read, words are totally broken at wrong places, by example the word "antwoordde" (means answer) is ant-woordde but it says antw-oordde.
Other example, allemaal (all) it must be broken as alle-maal but it breaks as all-emaal. That are 2 examples on one page.
Other: glimlachte (smile) the right way is glim-lachte but it breaks as gliml-achte and there are literally 100 examples in one book, while on epub format there is no hyphenation.
Is there a way to put hyphenation in kepubs off, it is just unreadable. Tried it with 4 kepubs but there isn't one page okay.
For example, the main role is a inspector called Opperdoes, the right ways are Opper-does or Op-perdoes, but it brakes with Opperd-oes. It is totally wrong with all Dutch kepubs, please tell me there is a way to put hyphenation off, it is Terrific! Tried 4 kepubs, not converted but I had to delete them and convert them to epub, is it patchable? Dutch dictionary is installed, but it is in some pages at least 8 times wrong.
On 2 Glo HD devices on 3.15,it is unusable!

[icallaci]

I used to put "adobe-hyphenate: none;" in the kobo_extra.css file to stop hyphenation but this hasn't been working lately. I think more and more CSS files are including their own adobe-hyphenate property, but I haven't had time to check it out.

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by icallaci

I used to put "adobe-hyphenate: none;" in the kobo_extra.css file to stop hyphenation but this hasn't been working lately. I think more and more CSS files are including their own adobe-hyphenate property, but I haven't had time to check it out.

That doesn't work in kepub files,imho,because for kepub the reader doesn't use the adobe reader but it's own, there are 2 reading apps inside, one for epub and one for kepub.

[bgog97522]

Originally Posted by davidfor

I have 3.15.0 on my N905 Touch and haven't seen that problem. But, if it isn't working on an N905C, it might explain why Kobo haven't released to this to the Touch yet. Other than the home icon showing in other places, what changes are you seeing in the UI?

How did you get it on the touch in the first place?
I know you probably got the firmware from the links thread but what firmware did you download?

[icallaci]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

That doesn't work in kepub files,imho,because for kepub the reader doesn't use the adobe reader but it's own, there are 2 reading apps inside, one for epub and one for kepub.

Oh, that's right, I forgot we were discussing kepubs, sorry.

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Just in case someone else stumbles across this thread and wants to know how to disable hyphenation in epubs, GeoffR posted in another thread that I might try using

body,div,p {
-webkit-hyphens: none !important;
}

in kobo_extra.css. I haven't tried this yet, but I'm betting it will work. I had been using adobe-hyphenate: none, which worked until CSS files started using -webkit-hyphens instead.
</hijack>

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by bgog97522

How did you get it on the touch in the first place?
I know you probably got the firmware from the links thread but what firmware did you download?

You have the N905C version of the Touch. It uses the "Mark 4" update package. You will be safe using that. For the N905 and N905B, you have to just use the KoboRoot.tgz from inside one of the packages.

[GeoffR]

Originally Posted by icallaci

I had been using adobe-hyphenate: none, which worked until CSS files started using -webkit-hyphens instead

The EPUB reader always used adobe-hyphenate. The KEPUB reader always used -webkit-hyphens. This hasn't changed.

[icallaci]

Originally Posted by GeoffR

The EPUB reader always used adobe-hyphenate. The KEPUB reader always used -webkit-hyphens. This hasn't changed.

Really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

[ableeker]

Calibre has been updated to support 3.16.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by ableeker

Calibre has been updated to support 3.16.

Yes, but 3.16.0 hasn't been released. And don't keep hitting the sync button as it will be at least a few days yet.

[macsek]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Kobo decided to pull it. They didn't give a reason.

I have started chess before upgrading. Chess appeared on the front page of the reader. Then upgraded firmware and chess remained on the front page, so I started it and it worked. So it is not removed completely from the firmware, just its menu item disappeared. Probably it can be started using a special ebook.

[macsek]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

In kepub hyphenation is in my language (Dutch / Netherlands) really totally wrong

I had also experienced this as there is no Hungarian language support in kobo (nor kindle) devices. I still read my books using correct Hungarian hyphenation on both Kobo and Kindle.
The trick is to use a plugin in Calibre, called "Hyphenate This!".
As it says about itself: "Add soft hyphens to AZW3 ebooks and Kindle will hyphenate text flawlessly! Get more realistic feeling and nice justification."



I have hyphenated 400+ (Hungarian) ebooks in less than 10 minutes.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by macsek

I had also experienced this as there is no Hungarian language support in kobo (nor kindle) devices. I still read my books using correct Hungarian hyphenation on both Kobo and Kindle.
The trick is to use a plugin in Calibre, called "Hyphenate This!".
As it says about itself: "Add soft hyphens to AZW3 ebooks and Kindle will hyphenate text flawlessly! Get more realistic feeling and nice justification."



I have hyphenated 400+ (Hungarian) ebooks in less than 10 minutes.

Kobo did some work in 3.16.0 to fix hyphenation. It is still not perfect, but seems to be better. If you load a Hungarian hyphenation dictionary onto the device, it should work. It would also be interesting to hear how well it works.

[macsek]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Kobo did some work in 3.16.0 to fix hyphenation. It is still not perfect, but seems to be better. If you load a Hungarian hyphenation dictionary onto the device, it should work. It would also be interesting to hear how well it works.

Thanks Davidfor, I will try it on the Touch, as currently I only have 3.16.0 on that. (mini, Aura and H2O have older fw)

[Anak]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

In kepub hyphenation is in my language (Dutch / Netherlands) really totally wrong, it is so bad that it is almost impossible to read, words are totally broken at wrong places, by example the word "antwoordde" (means answer) is ant-woordde but it says antw-oordde.
Other example, allemaal (all) it must be broken as alle-maal but it breaks as all-emaal. That are 2 examples on one page.
Other: glimlachte (smile) the right way is glim-lachte but it breaks as gliml-achte and there are literally 100 examples in one book, while on epub format there is no hyphenation.
Is there a way to put hyphenation in kepubs off, it is just unreadable. Tried it with 4 kepubs but there isn't one page okay.
For example, the main role is a inspector called Opperdoes, the right ways are Opper-does or Op-perdoes, but it brakes with Opperd-oes. It is totally wrong with all Dutch kepubs, please tell me there is a way to put hyphenation off, it is Terrific! Tried 4 kepubs, not converted but I had to delete them and convert them to epub, is it patchable? Dutch dictionary is installed, but it is in some pages at least 8 times wrong.
On 2 Glo HD devices on 3.15,it is unusable!

I have two questions about this:

1. Does it happen with kepub only? Or also with regular epubs?
2. Are the proper hyphenation files installed? In your case hyphenation for the Dutch language (Open Taal)? Is the hyphenation file converted from "ISO8859-1" to UTF-8 w/o BOM?

I'm still on fw 3.12 and installed the hyphenation files for Dutch (because the Kobo files didn't work, see the bug report thread for the details; this issue might be fixed with fw 3.15).

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

Other: glimlachte (smile) the right way is glim-lachte but it breaks as gliml-achte and there are literally 100 examples in one book, while on epub format there is no hyphenation.

This tells me that the Kobo provided hyphenation file still doesn't work. The Abobe epub renderer ignores it (no hyphenation). The kepub renderer is guessing (random hyphenation of words; very likely not based on Dutch hyphenation rules, with horrible results).
You need to patch the firmware with the fixed hyphenation files.


I don't have those hyphenation issues most words are correctly hyphenated. It is not perfect; it is a automated process. The accuracy is about 80-90%.
Note: I only read regular epubs not kepubs.

LEFTHYPHENMIN 2
RIGHTHYPHENMIN 3

These settings work fairly well.
IMHO, the default "5" hyphenates too few words.