If you are going to upgrade - Page 5

jbcohen · 09-20-2014, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by missimpossible

There's no way I'd be looking to upgrade until 2015 (at the very earliest, and probably more like 2016/2016) so the point is moot to me!

How do you figure on those dates? Do you set the length of time between upgrades? At my office they have a set policy that all computer equipment will be upgraded once every four years. So the office has all the hardware on a rotation so not everything is upgraded all at once, once every few months something is being replaced but if its four years old its time to replace it. My old stand by paper white is a little over two years and I am thinking of getting a second backup, however I am not sure what I want to do at this point. Its still going but it has issues now and then.

eschwartz · 09-21-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

I'm tempted by the Voyage because it has both touch screen and buttons -- but I'm worried about the lit up screen. My eyes really like the old e-ink style of my K4 and previous versions. So I don't think I'll get anything until I can test the lit screen (and even in a store, I can't test what 6-8 hrs of reading will do to my eyes!)

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Originally Posted by CRussel

You don't need to use the front light, just turn it off. Though this is NOT the same as backlighting, and doesn't cause eye fatigue.

There is also a hack that disables the light since the Kindle frontlight doesn't actully turn off -- it only turns down to practically nothing.

missimpossible · 09-21-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

How do you figure on those dates? Do you set the length of time between upgrades? At my office they have a set policy that all computer equipment will be upgraded once every four years. So the office has all the hardware on a rotation so not everything is upgraded all at once, once every few months something is being replaced but if its four years old its time to replace it. My old stand by paper white is a little over two years and I am thinking of getting a second backup, however I am not sure what I want to do at this point. Its still going but it has issues now and then.

For me, it's more of a money thing - I won't start my graduate job until 2015 so I won't be able to justify the outlay of money until then. Plus, I've only had the PW2 for a month, and I tend to like to only have one dedicated reader at a time (I occasionally read on my phone). So I figure I'll want to get at least a year's worth of use out of it.

JSWolf · 09-24-2014, 10:40 AM

I think other would also have been a good option. There is the H2O and the T68 as two other options as well.

twowheels · 09-24-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Atunah

I also have to say that my PW1 became almost unusable with that last big update it got. It is so slow its horrible. Even changing pages it way slow. It can take anywhere from 2-4 seconds to change pages. Might not sound like much, but try it and count as you turn pages. Sometimes I have to keep pecking at it just to make it go.

You might want to try a reboot or even a full factory reset as my PW1 turns pages very quickly, even w/ the latest firmware.

hmgreen · 09-27-2014, 10:29 AM

I am upgrading because of the resolution and buttons, too. Double storage capacity is a plus since it would make no sense to upgrade to another PW2. I will finally break down and sell my PW1 and Kindle Touch on eBay and keep the PW 2 as a spare..

Question: did anyone who ordered the Voyage buy the protection plan? $199 is a lot of money, but $49 to protect it (25% of the purchase price!) seems crazy. Also I am not impressed by the new covers - why addbu
K if the object is to make it light. Anyone agree? Anyone buy the screen protector?

Thanks all!

Atunah · 09-27-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by twowheels

You might want to try a reboot or even a full factory reset as my PW1 turns pages very quickly, even w/ the latest firmware.

Didn't help it. I did several reboots and also did a complete factory reset. I don't store many books on it anymore, just a handful. Still the same slow.
Battery is also going down really fast now.

shalym · 09-27-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Atunah

Didn't help it. I did several reboots and also did a complete factory reset. I don't store many books on it anymore, just a handful. Still the same slow.
Battery is also going down really fast now.

All of that sounds like a book (or books) stuck indexing...have you checked for that?

Shari

Atunah · 09-27-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shalym

All of that sounds like a book (or books) stuck indexing...have you checked for that?

Shari

Nothing stuck, that would have been the first thing I checked. I tried everything I know how to do. It all went downhill with that update and that cloud mess.

Josieb1 · 09-27-2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Atunah

Nothing stuck, that would have been the first thing I checked. I tried everything I know how to do. It all went downhill with that update and that cloud mess.

The problem with Cloud Collections is that every time you make a collection change or add a new book to your kindle the kindle is trying to sync with the Cloud, it's even worse if you use whispersync.

Josieb1 · 09-27-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hmgreen

I am upgrading because of the resolution and buttons, too. Double storage capacity is a plus since it would make no sense to upgrade to another PW2. I will finally break down and sell my PW1 and Kindle Touch on eBay and keep the PW 2 as a spare..

Question: did anyone who ordered the Voyage buy the protection plan? $199 is a lot of money, but $49 to protect it (25% of the purchase price!) seems crazy. Also I am not impressed by the new covers - why addbu
K if the object is to make it light. Anyone agree? Anyone buy the screen protector?

Thanks all!

The protection plan isn't yet available on the UK site but I will buy it, when it turns up, I've been told it will once the Voyage ships. It's peace of mind money for the extra few years.

I'm keeping the cost and weight down by buying the Belkin cover which weighs less than the official Origami cover. Third party cases may weigh even less.

HarryT · 09-28-2014, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hmgreen

Question: did anyone who ordered the Voyage buy the protection plan? $199 is a lot of money, but $49 to protect it (25% of the purchase price!) seems crazy.

Some people treat their readers roughly. I've never broken any device, but you get people on this forum who've broken numerous Kindles. For such people, the extended warranty is probably good value for money. If you look after your readers, it's completely unnecessary.

speedlever · 09-29-2014, 10:38 PM

Look what happens when you don't check the site for a little while! This is my first inkling that the new Kindle has been released.

Yes, I plan to upgrade from my trusty and still fully functional K3! I've been waiting months for the PW2014 and the Voyage is it. It is a bit pricier than I expected though.

And if for some reason I don't care for the Voyage, the upgraded storage of the PW2 should make that an attractive alternative.

Edit: one question... will the K3 charger work with the new Voyage? Same micro-USB connector?

twowheels · 09-30-2014, 01:34 AM

The specs don't say specifically that it's a micro usb, and none of the pictures on their webpage don't show the port, but Engadget claims that it's micro-usb.

http://www.engadget.com/products/ama.../voyage/specs/

....and micro-usb is micro-usb, as long as the charger puts out sufficient amperage. A 1 amp charger is probably sufficient. A higher amperage will not harm the device, it just means that the charger COULD put out more than the device is pulling. Less would mean that it can't keep up with the demand of the device. As for voltage, that's constant across all USB chargers as the standard defines it.

That said, cheap generic chargers can be dangerous as they don't have sufficient isolation and can cause fires or shocks, not to mention non-constant output that can damage your devices, so avoid super cheap generic chargers.

edit: DON'T show the port

Crowl · 09-30-2014, 05:29 AM

When I preordered mine, the list of things they tried to upsell you included their usual micro-usb charger so it would seem clear that they have not changed it for this gen.

Realistically speaking, I would not expect anyone other than apple to not use micro-usb at least until the usb 3.1 type c stuff becomes available.

View Poll Results: If you are going to upgrade wich one will you upgrade to?
Basic kindle	3	1.44%
Paper White	8	3.85%
Voyage	121	58.17%
Not going to upgrade	76	36.54%
Voters: 208. You may not vote on this poll

09-29-2014, 10:38 PM	#73
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Look what happens when you don't check the site for a little while! This is my first inkling that the new Kindle has been released. Yes, I plan to upgrade from my trusty and still fully functional K3! I've been waiting months for the PW2014 and the Voyage is it. It is a bit pricier than I expected though. And if for some reason I don't care for the Voyage, the upgraded storage of the PW2 should make that an attractive alternative. Edit: one question... will the K3 charger work with the new Voyage? Same micro-USB connector? Last edited by speedlever; 09-29-2014 at 10:41 PM.

09-30-2014, 01:34 AM	#74
twowheels Wizard Posts: 1,853 Karma: 13432974 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kobo Clara HD, iPad Pro 10", iPhone 15 Pro, Boox Note Max	The specs don't say specifically that it's a micro usb, and none of the pictures on their webpage don't show the port, but Engadget claims that it's micro-usb. http://www.engadget.com/products/ama.../voyage/specs/ ....and micro-usb is micro-usb, as long as the charger puts out sufficient amperage. A 1 amp charger is probably sufficient. A higher amperage will not harm the device, it just means that the charger COULD put out more than the device is pulling. Less would mean that it can't keep up with the demand of the device. As for voltage, that's constant across all USB chargers as the standard defines it. That said, cheap generic chargers can be dangerous as they don't have sufficient isolation and can cause fires or shocks, not to mention non-constant output that can damage your devices, so avoid super cheap generic chargers. edit: DON'T show the port Last edited by twowheels; 09-30-2014 at 12:34 PM.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I think other would also have been a good option. There is the H2O and the T68 as two other options as well.

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hmgreen Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505, -600, -900, Kindle 2, Touch, PW1 (all gone), PW2, Voyage	I am upgrading because of the resolution and buttons, too. Double storage capacity is a plus since it would make no sense to upgrade to another PW2. I will finally break down and sell my PW1 and Kindle Touch on eBay and keep the PW 2 as a spare.. Question: did anyone who ordered the Voyage buy the protection plan? $199 is a lot of money, but $49 to protect it (25% of the purchase price!) seems crazy. Also I am not impressed by the new covers - why addbu K if the object is to make it light. Anyone agree? Anyone buy the screen protector? Thanks all!

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Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	When I preordered mine, the list of things they tried to upsell you included their usual micro-usb charger so it would seem clear that they have not changed it for this gen. Realistically speaking, I would not expect anyone other than apple to not use micro-usb at least until the usb 3.1 type c stuff becomes available.