Sony reveals prototype 13.3-inch e-ink slate with stylus - Page 32

nathan.grewal · 02-21-2014, 09:37 AM

Wow . . . i thought I was obsessed with tech, but there's people on here who are seriously willing to pay $1000 for this!
Nerd on, guys!

ManDay · 02-21-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan.grewal

Wow . . . i thought I was obsessed with tech, but there's people on here who are seriously willing to pay $1000 for this!
Nerd on, guys!

Those willing to pay $1000 for this aren't but easy to steal from... I, too, was willing to pay a small fortune for a device which I found to be all I'd ever need in a decade to come. But as things look right now, this device is but garbage. The material is probably worth a $80 (at best) and the software which runs on it is worth precisely $0.

Looking forward to Onyx Intl. announced 13" e-reader with stylus. Their software isn't exactly perfect either, but at least they're as clever as to know the implications of making their software open and extensible.

joblack · 02-21-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nathan.grewal

Wow . . . i thought I was obsessed with tech, but there's people on here who are seriously willing to pay $1000 for this!
Nerd on, guys!

It depends on your use case. For me such a big e-book reader is an investment. If you're reading romance novels a 6 inch reader will be enough. Or if you don't read at all get an iPad, ...

I can't understand people who are "investing" 700+ USD in Apple hardware which mainly for consuming movies and other timewasting applications.

Whatever floats your boat.

petrucci · 02-21-2014, 08:47 PM

I really want this device. However, I am still a bit apprehensive. The language barrier is a problem. It is magnified by the fact that the Japanese sellers explicitly state that they do not accept returns. Thus if there is an problem, such as the device being defective or damaged in shipment, I would stand to loose alot.

All of this being said, there is nothing else like it on the market. Rumored devices such as the ipad pro, are now looking somewhat less competitive from my perspective. The PRO is now rumored to be around 12 inches, which is substantially smaller than the Sony. I want a device that can display letter or A4 pdfs at full size.

Rizla · 02-21-2014, 11:31 PM

Somebody rich please buy this and tell us what its like. The lack of flexible software and wide-range file format support is moronic. Sony, you make great hardware. You are a disaster.

Yokowa · 02-22-2014, 12:22 PM

I'm not rich, but I have just got one from amazon.jp. It is very good for pdf viewing, no cropping or reflow is needed, and its even better than reading on real books, because it is larger than most of the books. The four page mode is very handy sometimes. But it is a pitty that it does not support two page landscape mode. Aside from pdf viewing, it is also good for internet browsing, although a little slow. One more thing, the metallic back case is cold for holding in winter.

Sil_liS · 02-22-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ManDay

Those willing to pay $1000 for this aren't but easy to steal from... I, too, was willing to pay a small fortune for a device which I found to be all I'd ever need in a decade to come. But as things look right now, this device is but garbage. The material is probably worth a $80 (at best) and the software which runs on it is worth precisely $0.

Looking forward to Onyx Intl. announced 13" e-reader with stylus. Their software isn't exactly perfect either, but at least they're as clever as to know the implications of making their software open and extensible.

How much did you pay for your reader?

markom · 02-22-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yokowa

I'm not rich, but I have just got one from amazon.jp. It is very good for pdf viewing, no cropping or reflow is needed, and its even better than reading on real books, because it is larger than most of the books. The four page mode is very handy sometimes. But it is a pitty that it does not support two page landscape mode. Aside from pdf viewing, it is also good for internet browsing, although a little slow. One more thing, the metallic back case is cold for holding in winter.

Meanwhile, those who really need that view can always print pdf out as double-sided for landscape mode.

The same goes for epub/mobi to pdf conversion, comic files etc.

Lbooker · 02-22-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yokowa

I'm not rich, but I have just got one from amazon.jp. It is very good for pdf viewing, no cropping or reflow is needed, and its even better than reading on real books, because it is larger than most of the books. The four page mode is very handy sometimes. But it is a pitty that it does not support two page landscape mode. Aside from pdf viewing, it is also good for internet browsing, although a little slow. One more thing, the metallic back case is cold for holding in winter.

Those Sony engineers must be in the minority of Japanese people whose home is warm in the winter.

joblack · 02-22-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

Somebody rich please buy this and tell us what its like. The lack of flexible software and wide-range file format support is moronic. Sony, you make great hardware. You are a disaster.

You don't have to be rich but just save money for such a e-book device.

Kumabjorn · 02-22-2014, 08:19 PM

Rakuten's internet ads are starting to showcase the device. My guess is that demand is on the uptake including from foreign sources. Seems the Chinese has taken to it in droves.

Yokowa · 02-23-2014, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by markom

Meanwhile, those who really need that view can always print pdf out as double-sided for landscape mode.

The same goes for epub/mobi to pdf conversion, comic files etc.

yes, that's a nice workaround, thank you. By the way I bought it for about 106,000 yen.

markom · 02-23-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Yokowa

yes, that's a nice workaround, thank you. By the way I bought it for about 106,000 yen.

Could you test for us, some time later when available, how much time does it take to flatten annotated pdf e.g. 300-400 pages pdf with let's say at least 100 scribbled pages (for some vector pdf and for scanned) ?

Also how much time does it take to flip through ten consecutive pages (heavily annotated and without annotation), by pressing next page button and waiting for the pages to be completely seen.

Yokowa · 02-24-2014, 08:42 AM

The annotated pdf can not be flattened on the dvice, the annotations are saved automatically to the pdf files, and can be saved as an entry in workspace as well. I didnt find any option to export as a sigle flattened pdf. For page turns, its about 15s for ten pages, but varies much for different pdfs. In some rare case, e.g. i have a 3000 page pdf, i takes 7s to turn a page, but it is much faster after the bookmark is removed, about 1s pageturn time. The annotations does not affect the page turn time much, i can not feel the difference. It seems to me that generally the bottleneck is the refresh rate of the screen.

Kumabjorn · 02-24-2014, 08:45 AM

Forgive an ignoramus, but what is "flatten an annotated PDF"?

02-24-2014, 08:42 AM	#479
Yokowa Member Posts: 21 Karma: 15174 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: SONY PRS-T1 T3	The annotated pdf can not be flattened on the dvice, the annotations are saved automatically to the pdf files, and can be saved as an entry in workspace as well. I didnt find any option to export as a sigle flattened pdf. For page turns, its about 15s for ten pages, but varies much for different pdfs. In some rare case, e.g. i have a 3000 page pdf, i takes 7s to turn a page, but it is much faster after the bookmark is removed, about 1s pageturn time. The annotations does not affect the page turn time much, i can not feel the difference. It seems to me that generally the bottleneck is the refresh rate of the screen. Last edited by Yokowa; 04-02-2014 at 02:26 PM.

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nathan.grewal Dickens Fanatic Posts: 54 Karma: 12048 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: Kobo touch, iPod touch 4th gen, kobo arc, kobo arc 10 HD, nexus 5	Wow . . . i thought I was obsessed with tech, but there's people on here who are seriously willing to pay $1000 for this! Nerd on, guys!

02-21-2014, 08:47 PM	#469
petrucci Groupie Posts: 198 Karma: 1647827 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I really want this device. However, I am still a bit apprehensive. The language barrier is a problem. It is magnified by the fact that the Japanese sellers explicitly state that they do not accept returns. Thus if there is an problem, such as the device being defective or damaged in shipment, I would stand to loose alot. All of this being said, there is nothing else like it on the market. Rumored devices such as the ipad pro, are now looking somewhat less competitive from my perspective. The PRO is now rumored to be around 12 inches, which is substantially smaller than the Sony. I want a device that can display letter or A4 pdfs at full size.

02-21-2014, 11:31 PM	#470
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	Somebody rich please buy this and tell us what its like. The lack of flexible software and wide-range file format support is moronic. Sony, you make great hardware. You are a disaster.

02-22-2014, 12:22 PM	#471
Yokowa Member Posts: 21 Karma: 15174 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: SONY PRS-T1 T3	I'm not rich, but I have just got one from amazon.jp. It is very good for pdf viewing, no cropping or reflow is needed, and its even better than reading on real books, because it is larger than most of the books. The four page mode is very handy sometimes. But it is a pitty that it does not support two page landscape mode. Aside from pdf viewing, it is also good for internet browsing, although a little slow. One more thing, the metallic back case is cold for holding in winter.

02-22-2014, 08:19 PM	#476
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Rakuten's internet ads are starting to showcase the device. My guess is that demand is on the uptake including from foreign sources. Seems the Chinese has taken to it in droves.

02-24-2014, 08:45 AM	#480
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Forgive an ignoramus, but what is "flatten an annotated PDF"?