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[Belfaborac]

20GB and $10/GB sound incredibly bad.... I didn't realise that kind of thing existed these days, at least outside of extremely rural areas.

Originally Posted by Belfaborac

20GB and $10/GB sound incredibly bad.... I didn't realise that kind of thing existed these days, at least outside of extremely rural areas.

There's been a lot of talk about it in Canada, and it's pretty obvious as to why: the companies who want to implement these fees are cable providers and telephone companies that own television stations. So they are doing their best to protect those interests from the onslaught of online competitors. Coincidentally, they are also offering online video services that complement their internet services, for an extra fee.

Unfortunately, you can't avoid this stuff by going through an independent ISP because those cable and telephone companies also own the infrastructure that the independent ISPs depend upon to deliver their services.

[Belfaborac]

We have the same ownership structure here, but thankfully no such fees. As far as I can recall I've had an unlimited connection for the past twelve years and I'd find it very hard indeed to acclimatise to anything else.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

There's been a lot of talk about it in Canada, and it's pretty obvious as to why: the companies who want to implement these fees are cable providers and telephone companies that own television stations. So they are doing their best to protect those interests from the onslaught of online competitors. Coincidentally, they are also offering online video services that complement their internet services, for an extra fee.

Unfortunately, you can't avoid this stuff by going through an independent ISP because those cable and telephone companies also own the infrastructure that the independent ISPs depend upon to deliver their services.

Kinda hard to stream from the Cloud with harsh restrictions like these.

There's a major conflict of interest going on here. What needs to happen is to break these companies up. If they provide internet service, then they can't provide content. If they provide content, then they can't provide internet service.

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Kinda hard to stream from the Cloud with harsh restrictions like these.

The caps are somewhat higher in Canada. It is rather easy to chew through even a hundred GB/month if you're streaming video, download software, and other high bandwidth activities. That's roughly 3 hours of viewing per day. That limit would be easy for a family to bump into if they replaced their TV with video streaming.

There's a major conflict of interest going on here. What needs to happen is to break these companies up. If they provide internet service, then they can't provide content. If they provide content, then they can't provide internet service.

Giggle. Do you really think that the people who built these media empires are going to accept that? They didn't even like the government telling them that they had to charge bulk rates to independent ISPs so that a competitive marketplace can exist.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Giggle. Do you really think that the people who built these media empires are going to accept that? They didn't even like the government telling them that they had to charge bulk rates to independent ISPs so that a competitive marketplace can exist.

Of course they won't. That's why the government needs to step in and bust 'em up.

[JD Gumby]

Originally Posted by The Terminator

Just found out yesterday that our internet rules are changing, we get 20GB a month now and are charged $10 a gig after that, they used to just slow you down to a crawl if you went over it, but now we really have to watch it.

Ouch. Move to Nova Scotia. Eastlink only has caps on the 40mbit and higher connections - 5 & 20mbit are nice and capless. [though expensive - $52+tax for the 5mbit and $64+tax for the 20mbit]

[dredwerker]

Originally Posted by tompe

Dropbox is not streaming and works very well on trains (at least in Sweden). Actually streaming of podcasts also works on train.

Remember that some countries have much better mobile net infrastructure than other countries.

I don't think I ever said that dropbox was streaming. My point still stands what happens when a Swede visits the UK with their device which doesnt work. They can just copy the stuff on to their sd.. oh wait no they can't...

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Currently the majority of tablet customers are indeed choosing the OS most criticised for choosing simplicity over functionality.

But there are more people without tablets than those with tablets. It is possible that those who don't have tablets yet (even if they can afford them) simply consider all the current tablets to be too simple.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

But there are more people without tablets than those with tablets. It is possible that those who don't have tablets yet (even if they can afford them) simply consider all the current tablets to be too simple.

It is indeed possible, although I find it rather improbable.
Perhaps 50 million people will rush out to by a Windows tablet once it is available and offers them all the complexity they want, but then again perhaps not.
There are more people in the world who want to do simple things than want to do complicated ones.
There will always been demand for cars with a manual gearbox, but most Americans buy automatics, even though they are less efficient, because they are simpler to drive.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by dredwerker

I don't think I ever said that dropbox was streaming. My point still stands what happens when a Swede visits the UK with their device which doesnt work. They can just copy the stuff on to their sd.. oh wait no they can't...

Of course the device works in the UK with net but it will be rather expensive.

So what you do is you make sure all the files in Dropbox that you need also are saved locally (the same for Evernote).

[tompe]

Also the trains I have taken in the UK had free WiFi.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by tompe

So what you do is you make sure all the files in Dropbox that you need also are saved locally (the same for Evernote).

At which point you are back to needing enough local storage!

[The Terminator]

Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Ouch. Move to Nova Scotia. Eastlink only has caps on the 40mbit and higher connections - 5 & 20mbit are nice and capless. [though expensive - $52+tax for the 5mbit and $64+tax for the 20mbit]

We pay $55 a month for "High Speed Internet" the speed is only Mbps in perfect conditions, the ISP is a local internet provider. since we live about 45 Minutes away from the nearest City that has Shaw and Telus, and they have recently strung up Fibre Optic cables to here, so we're hoping that will mean we can get Telus internet. With Telus we could get 25Mbps and 500GB cap for the same price .

The website even says "State of the art modem internet technology which doesn't make sense. It's like the stone age of internet.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

At which point you are back to needing enough local storage!

Which you nearly alwyas have for the few times you are without WiFi of you are not camping or doing something else away from civilization.