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You either stand on the legal sale of goods or you don't, regardless of what the good is, you cannot say it's wrong to download a book and it's right to steal food. You are the one offending such children by upholding the system as it currently is.
Point made, enough said. If you and others don't get it now then any further debate is futile. Quote:
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I wasn't saying it is wrong to download a book but OK to steal food - I was saying your analogy is rubbish. However, I do think there is a moral difference between stealing food to keep your child alive and breaching someone's copyright because you don't want to pay for your entertainment - one of them is theft and the other isn't for one thing.
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People who have been granted citizenship can have their citizenship revoked, and be deported. This has happened in the UK for people convicted of particularly unpleasant crimes.
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The aforementioned Act allows UK Citizens to be extradited even for non-violent crimes. S.137(2): Quote:
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My kids are grown now, my daughter writes shows for Fox, and my son spends his days on internet forums making bad analogies, writing posts that make it painfully clear that he's oblivious to any moral degrees between black or white. Every time I read my one of my son's clichéd filled posts, more soundbite than actual thought, I think of what could have been and die a little on the inside. My kids don't hate me, but how could they? They don't even know that the hole exists. I hate myself for them. |
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I think this extradition thing is great. In South Africa we have a hate speech law because after years of apartheid we are a bit sensitive to that stuff. I think we should extradite that idiot pastor that wanted to burn the Koran. We don't like that and it is a crime here. Give him to us and we can stick his sorry butt in one of our prisons and you guys can be free of him. It's a win win.
Sorry for the sarcasm above. Sorry to those that I confused and didn't realize I was being sarcastic. I think it ridiculous that this man can be extradited to the US. On such a tenuous connection. It's not cyberterrorism, it's superpower terrorism. Of course I think he is involved in criminal activities but New Zealand should handle it. Why not, it is a country that is well run with a mature democracy, a legitimate respected legal system and they are the rugby world cup holders. |
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And I'm not sure why you think that operating 500+ servers in the US is a "tenuous" connection. Quote:
(I should also point out that extradition proceedings have just begun in NZ; it will probably take several months before a NZ court issues an order actually extraditing him, assuming they do so). |
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Every site should just split their ad revenue amongst the most "popular" downloads. Sort of like what Amazon is experimenting with. This is only a short term solution though, once everything is available freely to everyone, compensation really does become an issue, although it is not an intractable issue.
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http://synecdochic.dreamwidth.org/522290.html We're not just talking "smoking gun" here; it's the equivalent of video with mugging for the camera. ![]() Essentially, the FBI fully documented (with the gang's own emails) that Megaupload's primary purpose and revenue generation engine was the unlicensed distribution of copyrighted material. Any non-infringing use of the service was incidental and minor compared to the illegal activity. It looks like it's all over but the plea bargains. |
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It is expected that they will go even more underground. It will become the prime breeding ground for illegal activities. In short, the current copyright laws creates terrorists. It is sad but I really don't see anyone coming to their senses.
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