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[AprilHare]

Originally Posted by sabredog

or availability.

The Sony PRS-T1 will be available in Australia before the new Kindle(s) or Kobo Touch will.

I'm not in the market for one but I imagine people will hang on for uber cheap.

Originally Posted by Phogg

Sonys have become the higher end machine people move up to after a Nook or Kobo. Heavy readers discover library management is a problem when you go cheap. It is very much like people who get their first car in highschool, and then discover they need a van or stationwagon to haul their family around when they marry and start families.

The Sony Reader certainly can make a splash - I remember this from the early days of owning a PRS-500 when no-one else owned a ebook reader. "It's a Sony!" was heard with a note of jealousy from one fellow traveller at least..
Purchasing a Sony Reader now would be a matter of financial decision though. The old one is perfectly fine for what I need right now though.

Originally Posted by Phogg

Also, Sony is the best for recipe books when you are cooking chicken...

I thought chicken cooks used those horrible LCD ebook readers for their recipes!

[fafaforza]

Originally Posted by Arrghus

I all-too-often end up highlighting a word or some text instead of turning a page on my Sony.

I had the opposite experience. An errant click only resulted in the 'no go' icon being flashed on the very bottom, saving me an unintended page turn. With click-to-turn, I'd foresee many unintended page turns, especially with the bezel getting smaller and holding on to the reader becoming more difficult without touch the screen accidentally.

Originally Posted by Arrghus

it would seem very short-sighted of them to have not thought about the potential problem you mention.

It's not like large companies haven't made silly oversights before.

[quisvir]

As there is some discussion in this thread on page turning by tapping, I would like to point out that the next version of PRS+ will support this feature for all Sony touchscreen models. It will offer a choice of areas for next/previous (such as left/right, top/bottom). All other tap- and gesture-related functionality remains unchanged (i.e. everything still works ), and the feature can of course be easily enabled or disabled.

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by quisvir

... page turning by tapping, I would like to point out that the next version of PRS+ will support this feature for all Sony touchscreen models.

This sounds good... when do you think it might be available? The official version, that is, I'm not up to compiling my own.

[prsita]

According me, the new Kindle Touch is a much better device, because:

1) it costs less;

2) his body is better (the back is metallic), while the back of the T1 is shining plastic;

3) the internal memory is double (4 Giga instead of 2 Giga);

4) has a better bactery (2 months instead of the 1 of the T1);

5) has a better screen (according to the impressions of those that have alredy received it);

6) has a better way to turn pages.

[quisvir]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

This sounds good... when do you think it might be available? The official version, that is, I'm not up to compiling my own.

That's up to kartu, but considering that the last release was only about a week ago, it's unlikely to be soon.

prsita:
The Kindles (new ones included) use exactly the same type of screen as the Sony's (EInk Pearl), so the difference is 0, no matter what uninformed sources might claim.
And if you don't mind installing PRS+, it's a pretty safe bet that you can get the T-1 to do page turning by taps as well, and with more options (once the device is supported).

On points 1-4 however, you're right

[prsita]

The Kindles (new ones included) use exactly the same type of screen as the Sony's (EInk Pearl), so the difference is 0, no matter what uninformed sources might claim.
And if you don't mind installing PRS+, it's a pretty safe bet that you can get the T-1 to do page turning by taps as well, and with more options (once the device is supported).
On points 1-4 however, you're right

The PRS+ is the only reason for which I haven't sold my PRS 650 and 350 yet. After the dismission of these models, there is no hope that Sony will support their systems, with updates. The only hope is only PRS+ (that I have alredy installed). What the PRS+ alredy made is what Sony should have made. But they seem to abbandon the old customers, willing to get new ones. The won't reach this goal in this way, because the best customers are the old faithfull ones, returnig again.

For the screen of the new Kindle, j have read the reports of the first users and the site of the Amazon, where they talk about an improved screen. The ony way to judge is by person, putting side by side the new two models.

[ScalyFreak]

Originally Posted by prsita

Fo the screen of the new Kindle, j have read the reports of the first users and the site of the Amazon, where they talk about an improved screen.

Were they specifically comparing it to the Sony readers? Most of my family joined the Kindle mafia in the past year, and my 950 screen seems better than the one on their readers.

[quisvir]

Amazon's own page with the screen info (here) clearly states EInk Pearl, and I have not seen them claim 'improved screens'. In fact, EInk has clearly stated that it will not come out with new screens this year. So yes, the screens are 100% the same. Screens from different batches will always differ in quality, as will newly made ones vs old ones.

And if Amazon really did somehow have 'improved' screens, wouldn't they be shouting it from the rooftops?

[Pomtroll]

I believe the were comparing screens between the K4 non touch to the K3.

I'm still on the fence between the Sony T1 & the new Kindle Touch. I probably won't be buying one this year though. I really like my Sony 350 & it is serving me quite well & after all I just bought it in January.....Now if someone gave it to me for my birthday in December....

[eSheri]

Originally Posted by AprilHare

I think the main thing the consumer will compare is the price.

I agree but first we should examine the store's content! I love my Sony but Amazon has a better selection of the kinds of books I like.

[Pomtroll]

Originally Posted by eSheri

I agree but first we should examine the store's content! I love my Sony but Amazon has a better selection of the kinds of books I like.

I agree with you there. And I like the $.99 bargains. By getting these books I have found a lot of new authors. I prefer mysteries & sci-fi/fantasy & they have a lot of specials on these...More of the mystery though.

[Kolenka]

Only gonna quote/rebuke the points I disagree with. If I didn't list one of your points, it's because I'm not really gonna argue, or someone has already done it for me.

Originally Posted by prsita

According me, the new Kindle Touch is a much better device, because:

1) it costs less;

Depends on if you like ads. 10$ of savings for the ad-free version isn't enough to get me to switch away from Sony's stuff at this point. Had their prices still been in the 200$+ range, no contest.

Originally Posted by prsita

4) has a better bactery (2 months instead of the 1 of the T1);

With all the silly measurements being made, and that the previous Kindles magically went from 2 weeks to 2 months based on how they measure, when the Nook Touch came out... can we really be sure that this is really an accurate comparison?

I do amateur astronomy, and one of the biggest problems when buying gear there is that mounts for telescopes have weight capacities listed in the specs. But every brand measures their capacity differently. So you can't compare the capacity of any two mounts directly, sometimes even with the same brand you can't do it. I see the same problem here when they keep changing how they measure battery life.

As I've said in other threads though, the raw specs themselves only tell part of the tale. Ignoring the software feature set and stability may come back to bite some folks. Amazon has a great integrated purchasing story, although I've always enjoyed Sony's feature set more (since I tend to shop around for books, and like having my library with me, auto-organized by Calibre). You can't really quantify that in specs, nor can you ignore it, although it can be much more subjective than other measures.

[jersysman]

Originally Posted by prsita

According me, the new Kindle Touch is a much better device, because:

1) it costs less;

2) his body is better (the back is metallic), while the back of the T1 is shining plastic;

3) the internal memory is double (4 Giga instead of 2 Giga);

4) has a better bactery (2 months instead of the 1 of the T1);

5) has a better screen (according to the impressions of those that have alredy received it);

6) has a better way to turn pages.

I'll just respond to #3. Sure the memory internally may be larger, but the new Kindles do not have a memory card slot. For me, that is very important. So, I'll give them the bigger memory internally, but I still prefer the Sony on this one.

[khalleron]

Originally Posted by oncdoc

my decison will depend on whether the new t1 has a font like the kindles. Anyone know?

The T1 has 7 or 8 fonts in 6 sizes, I believe. (Or maybe it's 6 fonts in 8 sizes, I forget). Anyway, lots of choices.

Originally Posted by Pomtroll

Unless I misunderstand you can download directly from the library to the Sony T1 right? I'm not sure that is possible with the Kindle. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, for Sony, no for Kindle. You have to check out from your computer and have the book sent to the Kindle. The Sony T1 even has icons on the homepage for library borrowing and for Google Books.

I was hoping Amazon would fix that with the new models, but if they have, no one has said.

I admit the new Kindles made me blink for a moment ($79! Are you kidding?) - but comparing features that I would actually *use*, I'm not cancelling my T1 pre-order.