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Old 10-15-2010, 02:53 PM   #61
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yep, I live in fear of a simultaneous eruption (other than the continuous one, that one doesn't count) and tsunami. Where would we go? Throw in an Earthquake and a Hurricane (can you have a hurricane at the same times as a tsunami?) and maybe a wildfire or two (we get a lot of those) and we're set in party mode!

Maybe I should move...

(oh, and KUDOS to you, ku'u hoa, for using the proper 'okina in O'ahu and Hawai'i! )

Thanks Grace,

As I recall, the last decent sized Earthquake you had on the Big Island, we on O`ahu suffered more than you did, what with the day long power outage.

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Each time I see this thread title, I think of those "people" who come to my door........


"are you prepared to meet your maker"?
n-n-n-nooooo! sorry!

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No, no DGma, it's

"are you prepared to avoid meeting your maker"?
and remain as comfortable as possible whilst doing it!

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Thanks Grace,

As I recall, the last decent sized Earthquake you had on the Big Island, we on O`ahu suffered more than you did, what with the day long power outage.
a whole day huh?
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No, no DGma, it's

"are you prepared to avoid meeting your maker"?
I don't know whether to feel more sorry for me or my maker!

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n-n-n-nooooo! sorry!

Ah....I think I was one of the first to answer, so I know what its about, but still........funny the things that your mind does..........



and remain as comfortable as possible whilst doing it!



a whole day huh?
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:50 PM   #64
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Each time I see this thread title, I think of those "people" who come to my door........


"are you prepared to meet your maker"?
I just smile and say "Yes, and are you prepared to meet the Goddess? Let me tell you about Her!". Then they go away.
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what would you do with said fan during a blackout?
I use a battery operated fan during blackouts. Due to problems breathing and the high heat and huidity, I could not make it without one during the summer blackouts.
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ahhh! see we don't have that extreme here and I would not have thought of it!
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Reading this topic makes me think that either I live on another planet, or you...
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in regards to???
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:54 AM   #69
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in regards to???
See?
Your questions only confirms my suspicions.

You are talking about all sort of preparations for coming winter, blackouts, storms, etc., i.e., natural disasters, as if we don't live on a civilised planet in civilised countries. I would understand Africans or South Americans talking about it but hearing this from Western people? I have no blooming idea what you guys are talking about. Why would you need this sort of knowledge unless you are actives travellers who do a lot of camping. Don't we all live in cities/towns in flats/houses fully prepared and equipped?

I mean, I don't know anything about it at all. It has never occurred to me that i have to learn it. I have never had a need for it in my life (I lived in 3 widely spread countries across the globe).

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where I live we are told to be able to sustain ourselves for up to a week with no resources even in the city. this is primarily due to the possibility of earthquakes. they figure that when the big one comes, and as I said before they are saying when not if, we will be cut off and everything will be shut down.

as for my own situation, we have been without power for a week plus. going to a hotel is not an option because a; there are not enough hotels for everyone and b; I have livestock. it is also 10 miles to the closest store (even if it would be open in severe weather). just getting there could be a huge issue alone!
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I understand all of it. Maybe I have read about it or seen on TV, but it sounds so bizarre to a town rat Seeing actual people talking about it seriously, that is when you realise it is not a game anymore, it is a real life situation for many.
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What I remember of the Kobe earthquake in 1995 are images on the news of people complaining that the government wasn't responding to the their needs fast enough. They kept asking "where is the aid, where is the government".

That is what I saw. People standing or sitting, waiting to be helped. Was it the whole story? I'm sure it wasn't. But that was the image over, and over, on the TV.

When I saw pictures of earthquakes in other parts of the world I saw common people digging others out by hand and with no government help.

In the less civilized, and less sedate, parts of the world people depend on themselves and there neighbors. The loss of that is saddening.
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Probably you are right.
I am not a survivalist. If some disaster happens I will be one of the first to be served for a meal On the other hand I don't want to think about it. I am not sure whether I would want to have much less comfortable life than I have today. No toilets, no hot water, no freezers, no warm house...what is a point?
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I understand all of it. Maybe I have read about it or seen on TV, but it sounds so bizarre to a town rat Seeing actual people talking about it seriously, that is when you realise it is not a game anymore, it is a real life situation for many.
I live in a city, too, and we seem to be the ones who are NOT prepared when something happens. We've had a few big and unexpectedly severe ice storms in the past few years, and I live in the South. Elderly people living in all-electric homes or apartments can end up in a pretty bad situation if the power goes out for 4 or 5 days here with temperatures in the teens. Our local goverments simply don't have the equipment to clear the roads of ice or deal with so many downed trees (and power lines) at one time, so usually they open some shelters and work as quickly as they can to get things up and running. People in the more rural areas, on the other hand, usually aren't as dependent on the city infrastructure and often have backup woodstoves or fireplaces or generators.
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What you need, Astra, is a good invasion of the ole British Isles.

I mean, the worst you have to contend with now is a bit of damp fog or rain.

Perhaps if you set out applications you could even choose the most suitable invader?
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