Adobe Digital Editions 3.0 released

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

This is why I sent my mother's husband an email to make sure he doesn't upgrade. She has a Nook and reads a lot of library books. I wonder if libraries will be forced to update to cs5 and use the new drm. A lot of publishers don't like libraries.

If publishers make it hard for ePub to be borrowed from the library, a lot of users who did download ePub will be switching to Amazon. Again Amazon wins and Adobe/ePub loses.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

This is fracked. Adobe should be dismanteled because of pushiness or working against their own customers or something. I find it unacceptable that Adobe might enforce the new DRM, thereby disabling ADE 2.0 and any current reader along with it. You CAN'T demand from customers that they replace perfectly good readers that are just a year old, or stop buying books to wait a few months on firmware updates.

If this stuff is confusing to us, on people who are in the know down to the details, imagine how utterly lost a normal consumer will be.

Have you ever bought a new computer with a new version OS or just upgraded the OS and found old hardware no longer works because there is no longer a working driver for that OS? I have a perfectly good HP laser printer that does not work with with Windows 7-64 bit or Windows 8 64-bit because there is no driver for such. The printer works perfectly well. But without a driver, it's a paperweight. So yes, you can be forced to buy something to replace what you have that still works perfectly well.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

and now we have Sony bookstore and devices(in US) going away so there will be books that can't transfer to Kobo. This also means that Sony devices will not be updated.

Sony might update given that they still sell eBooks outside the US and in order to keep customers there able to read what's been purchased, I do think a firmware update will be needed. Heck, when Sony went all ePub, they did manage to update the old 500 which most people thought was a goner.

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If that's what Adobe and the BPH all think, then they all have their heads firmly entrenched up their read ends. When people install ADE 3.0 to a new computer and start downloading ePub that they cannot use with their existing Reader/app/whatever they use to read with and there is no update available to handle the new DRM, then this is when Amazon wins. This is when people jump ship from ePub and arch on over to Amazon because Amazon still works. I don't see how this can be a strategy that will do anything but give more business to Amazon.

Did anyone got problem?
Sounds like everyone happily keep on using adept, and the apocalypse didn't happen.

Probably some people using their minds and actually realized the mess it would be.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

I suggest you read the obsolescence part of the wikipedia article on DRM.

Far too many companies have left customers of DRMed media in the lurch for us to be confident that Adobe and friends won't do the same.

Hell, Adobe did it themselves with the switch from CS3 to CS4 a few years ago!

Don't forget that Amazon themselves screwed customers over big time when they stopped selling eBooks (before the Kindle) and stopped allowing downloads of already purchased eBooks. When people needed to download their PDF again in order to update the DRM, they were unable because Amazon just simply stopped allowing that. So remember, even Amazon is guilty of screwing over customers and causing them to lose access to their legally purchased content.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Fbone

I can testify to this. I don't own a Kindle so have to use Kindle for PC to access my ebooks there. After a forced update the tools don't always work. In my case, it appears something changes every January with Amazon and/or ADE because the tools are ineffective.

I noticed I had a problem on the laptop with my stripping of DRM on eBooks from Amazon downloaded with Kindle for PC. I then removed it, deleted the eBooks, downloaded a fresh copy of Kindle for PC (not the Win 8 garbage), redownloaded all of my Amazon eBooks, had the plugin make a new key file and all was well. This was after January 2014. This was done February 15, 2014.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by donschjr

Anyone having problems with ADE? I'm trying to open a library book but keep getting authorization error. I tried to renter may adobe id and tried reinstall of 2.0 but no luck.

Sometimes it's a glitch on the authorization server side of things. It does get fixed eventually. Last time I had such an issue was earlier this month with about a 3 hour window where I could not download from the library. It might have been a longer time down, but it was less then 8 hours for sure.

[hwlester]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Sony might update given that they still sell eBooks outside the US and in order to keep customers there able to read what's been purchased, I do think a firmware update will be needed. Heck, when Sony went all ePub, they did manage to update the old 500 which most people thought was a goner.

Sony has announced the closing of the UK store as well. I think that only leaves Japan. I doubt they will be selling them for long. Considering that T3 wasn't even marketed in the US, the may be getting out of the eBook business entirely soon. I love my T1 (and 600 I had before it) even though I own a Kindle Touch which I rarely use.

[eschwartz]

@JSWolf,

why are you replying to a ton of really old posts in this thread, especially as you are merely repeating the same idea in multiple forms, in a way that everyone else has already?

Also,

Originally Posted by JSWolf

ADE 2 is not unstable. Wine is the issue here. It's not Adobe's fault you don't have Windows to boot to. It's your choice not to use Windows so it's your decision that ADE 2 won't run on your computer. As for ADE 2 being unstable, it's very stable on Windows 7 32 and 64-bit as well as Windows 8.1 64-bit and Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.

It doesn't really matter how well it runs on Windows, since that wasn't the issue. Two people who use Linux were discussing a problem with a WINE program. Who are you helping by telling them (again, 4 months later) that it's "their fault" for wanting to run Linux? Is it personally offensive to you when people run Linux? Did they insult your Windows computer?

Did they even say it is Adobe's fault that it is unstable? No, they simply said (for better or for worse) that it IS unstable! I am sure that as knowledgeable Linux users, they are perfectly aware that they are making tradeoffs/sacrifices, and are prepared to deal with it.

Thank you for the bile. We all learned a great deal from your explanation, I am sure.

(Written from my Linux computer. )

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

ADE 2 is not unstable. Wine is the issue here. It's not Adobe's fault you don't have Windows to boot to. It's your choice not to use Windows so it's your decision that ADE 2 won't run on your computer. As for ADE 2 being unstable, it's very stable on Windows 7 32 and 64-bit as well as Windows 8.1 64-bit and Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.

Did I said that ?
ADE 2 via wine isn't unstable, it don't start at all.

And I do have a windows to boot to (for games), i just don't want to.
And, as ADE 1 worked almost flawlessly with wine, quite some regression.

[Divingduck]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

@JSWolf,
why are you replying to a ton of really old posts in this thread, especially as you are merely repeating the same idea in multiple forms, in a way that everyone else has already?
...

Wrong setup at DeLorean time machine by traveling back from future to now?

[doubleshuffle]

Originally Posted by Divingduck

Wrong setup at DeLorean time machine...

Yeah, the bloody thing probably ran Linux...

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Yeah, the bloody thing probably ran Linux...

I have to disagree -- not because I am biased to believe that Linux would be easier to configure (if you knew what you were doing), but because apparently JSWolf doesn't like Linux, so he can't use a machine that runs on it.

[doubleshuffle]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I have to disagree -- not because I am biased to believe that Linux would be easier to configure (if you knew what you were doing), but because apparently JSWolf doesn't like Linux, so he can't use a machine that runs on it.

But...


no, not gonna start explaining silly spur-of-the-moment jokes.

[JSWolf]

samhy is the one who is saying that ADE 2 is unstable. I'm just disagreeing with that.