Inconsistent behavior in similar Preference windows

BetterRed · Yesterday, 06:05 PM

For me, this is a 'since forever' issue, which I've chosen to disregard with a sigh and a shrug.

But the recent enhancement to provide direct access to Preferences sections via its action menu and provision of corresponding keyboard shortcuts means a sigh and shrug are no longer appropriate. Particularly since I discovered an inconsistency between what are ostensibly very similar Preference sections.

The windows in question are Look and Feel, and the three Conversion windows - Input, Common and Output.

The inconsistency is access to the left sidebar toolbars via the keyboard:

When the three Conversion windows are opened I can tap Tab a couple of times to get into the menus, and I can Tab from a toolbar item into its dialogue box.

When the L&F window is opened I have to use the mouse to get into the toolbar, and I cannot Tab from a toolbar item into its dialogue box.

But what I cannot do is any of the windows is Tab back to the toolbar from within a dialogue box. But I'm not sure the Tab key is the 'best solution' either… in fact I know it's not.

My suggestion is that each of the four panels get a shortcut to toggle keyboard focus between the toolbar and the dialogues - no defaults.

"Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Common Options"
"Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Input Options"
"Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Look and Feel"
"Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Output Options"

The only one I would assign a sequence to, is L&F… in a heartbeat

BR

BetterRed · Yesterday, 08:48 PM

Another inconsistency.

If I right click any of the layout buttons the relevant Preference panel pops - except for the Cover browser, it pops the Main interface panel.

BR

kovidgoyal · Yesterday, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Another inconsistency.

If I right click any of the layout buttons the relevant Preference panel pops - except for the Cover browser, it pops the Main interface panel.

BR

This is now fixed as for tabbing not something I care to spend time on, patches welcome.

BetterRed · Yesterday, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

. . . as for tabbing not something I care to spend time on, patches welcome.

My suggestion is to replace the existing inconsistent & incomplete (i.e. flaky) Tab based approach with four shortcuts.

BR

kovidgoyal · Yesterday, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

My suggestion is to replace the existing inconsistent & incomplete (i.e. flaky) Tab based approach with four shortcuts.

BR

calibre does not support dialog specific configurable shortcuts. So that's a non-starter.

BetterRed · Today, 12:47 AM

Goes against the grain, but here goes: Hard coded shortcut, common to the four windows - Alt+Shift+F12, for no particular reason.

kovidgoyal · Today, 12:49 AM

That's completely undiscoverable it would be basically for one person.

BetterRed · Today, 01:04 AM

So how about making L&F's behaviour consistent with the other three… i.e. tap Tab a couple of times to get into the toolbar, and Tab into the dialogue.

kovidgoyal · Today, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

This is now fixed as for tabbing not something I care to spend time on, patches welcome.

see above.

Yesterday, 06:05 PM	#1
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,170 Karma: 30317706 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Inconsistent behavior in similar Preference windows For me, this is a 'since forever' issue, which I've chosen to disregard with a sigh and a shrug. But the recent enhancement to provide direct access to Preferences sections via its action menu and provision of corresponding keyboard shortcuts means a sigh and shrug are no longer appropriate. Particularly since I discovered an inconsistency between what are ostensibly very similar Preference sections. The windows in question are Look and Feel, and the three Conversion windows - Input, Common and Output. The inconsistency is access to the left sidebar toolbars via the keyboard: When the three Conversion windows are opened I can tap Tab a couple of times to get into the menus, and I can Tab from a toolbar item into its dialogue box. When the L&F window is opened I have to use the mouse to get into the toolbar, and I cannot Tab from a toolbar item into its dialogue box. But what I cannot do is any of the windows is Tab back to the toolbar from within a dialogue box. But I'm not sure the Tab key is the 'best solution' either… in fact I know it's not. My suggestion is that each of the four panels get a shortcut to toggle keyboard focus between the toolbar and the dialogues - no defaults. "Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Common Options" "Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Input Options" "Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Look and Feel" "Toggle toolbar/dialog keyboard focus - Output Options" The only one I would assign a sequence to, is L&F… in a heartbeat BR

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Yesterday, 08:48 PM	#2
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,170 Karma: 30317706 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Another inconsistency. If I right click any of the layout buttons the relevant Preference panel pops - except for the Cover browser, it pops the Main interface panel. BR

Today, 12:47 AM	#6
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,170 Karma: 30317706 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Goes against the grain, but here goes: Hard coded shortcut, common to the four windows - Alt+Shift+F12, for no particular reason.

Today, 12:49 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,884 Karma: 29151636 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	That's completely undiscoverable it would be basically for one person.

Today, 01:04 AM	#8
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,170 Karma: 30317706 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	So how about making L&F's behaviour consistent with the other three… i.e. tap Tab a couple of times to get into the toolbar, and Tab into the dialogue.

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