epub and kindle format on one eReader?

mkberg · 05-26-2021, 08:13 PM

Hello,
Is there an eReader that will support ePub and Kindle format?
I like my Kindle but it does not have the orange light which is important to me.

Thank you.

j.p.s · 05-26-2021, 08:27 PM

Unless it has just become too late, the current kindle Oasis has orange light and can read EPUB with koreader after jailbreak.

Kobo can read KF7/mobi as well as EPUB.

Android readers can read just about anything.

Sirtel · 05-26-2021, 09:05 PM

Kobo cannot read modern Kindle formats. Few Amazon books are in the old mobi format nowadays. And they often come with DRM anyway.

So it's either a jailbroken Oasis or an Android ereader.

Personally I see no need for an all-in-one ereader, as long as there are Apprentices and Calibre. But YMMV.

ottischwenk · 05-27-2021, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkberg

Is there an eReader that will support ePub and Kindle format?
I like my Kindle but it does not have the orange light which is important to me.

None of the conventional eReaders can do it well despite hacks, but EInk Android tablets - from Boyue-Likebook or Onyx-Boox (more expensive):
- 6 in.: Likebook P6 (only white light), Boox Poke 3
-7.8 inches: Likebook P78, Boox Nova 3

JSWolf · 05-27-2021, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkberg

Hello,
Is there an eReader that will support ePub and Kindle format?
I like my Kindle but it does not have the orange light which is important to me.

Thank you.

I have never had the need to read Kindle eBooks in the format they came in. I've always been able to convert them to ePub to read with my Kobo Aura H2O. So as has been said earlier, you do not need one device t read them all.

The hing is, the Kindle firmware is not nearly as good as that of Kobo. The Libra is better because you have many more options. You can use Calibre and the DeDRM plugin to remove the DRM from Kindle eBooks (Mobi/KF8). If you read the thread on Kindle for PC/MAC, you'll find out a lot of useful information.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=283371

Also, a Kindle Oasis costs more and does less then a Kobo Libra H2O.

BookCat · 05-28-2021, 07:44 AM

As no one has refered the OP to Apprentice Alf, I will: google Apprentice Alf.

JSWolf · 05-28-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BookCat

As no one has refered the OP to Apprentice Alf, I will: google Apprentice Alf.

No need for Google. Here's the URL.

https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com

ZodWallop · 05-29-2021, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkberg

Hello,
Is there an eReader that will support ePub and Kindle format?
I like my Kindle but it does not have the orange light which is important to me.

Thank you.

It would be easier to just convert your Kindle format books to ePub with Calibre and Apprentice Alf than it would to find a device that handles both formats.

I buy all of my ebooks from Amazon and convert them to ePub. I don't even own a Kindle.

salamanderjuice · 05-30-2021, 07:22 AM

It's easier to use an Android eReader with the Kindle app and something else for ePubs. Way easier. You can just buy a book from the device, you don't need to jam a PC in the middle, make sure your Kindle for PC hasn't updated and then sideload the book somehow.

I'll periodically remove DRM from new books I bought and convert to ePub, but to do that EVERY single purchase is the pits. It's even worse if you're like me and you have separate accounts for different countries and need to log in and out of the PC clients to strip DRM. On Android I can just clone the app and have different versions for each one.

I highly recommend an Android eReader like Boox if you routinely buy between Amazon and elsewhere.

meeera · 05-30-2021, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

I'll periodically remove DRM from new books I bought and convert to ePub, but to do that EVERY single purchase is the pits. It's even worse if you're like me and you have separate accounts for different countries and need to log in and out of the PC clients to strip DRM.

That sounds like an awful lot of work for you personally, but for people who aren't making it difficult for themselves, it's just drag and drop. A matter of seconds.

Way too many ebook vendors have fallen over for me to leave any purchases un-disinfected.

salamanderjuice · 05-30-2021, 08:06 AM

I trust Amazon and Kobo aren't going to stop selling ebooks and disappear overnight with no warning.

It doesn't take much longer to strip DRM from 1 book vs. 100. The only annoying thing is that Kindle on PC doesn't have a way to batch download. But when you do it every time you have to go to the PC, log in, do all the steps every time for every book. When it's 10PM and I am in bed and want to read the next book in the series I was reading I don't want to get out of bed and hop on the PC to sideload a book. 2 seconds to hit buy in bed and download vs. 5 minutes to go the PC. And god forbid you need to update Calibre because your Kobo updated and yadda yadda.

ZodWallop · 05-31-2021, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

...When it's 10PM and I am in bed and want to read the next book in the series I was reading I don't want to get out of bed and hop on the PC to sideload a book. 2 seconds to hit buy in bed and download vs. 5 minutes to go the PC. And god forbid you need to update Calibre because your Kobo updated and yadda yadda.

Man, I'm not the most organized person on Earth, but I usually have an inkling that I am nearly finished with the current book I am reading and that it might be a good idea to load the next book on my reader. I typically know this hours, even days before I finish my current book. I know, I must have psychic powers. Just call me Miss Cleo.

DNSB · 05-31-2021, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

I trust Amazon and Kobo aren't going to stop selling ebooks and disappear overnight with no warning.

It doesn't take much longer to strip DRM from 1 book vs. 100. The only annoying thing is that Kindle on PC doesn't have a way to batch download. But when you do it every time you have to go to the PC, log in, do all the steps every time for every book. When it's 10PM and I am in bed and want to read the next book in the series I was reading I don't want to get out of bed and hop on the PC to sideload a book. 2 seconds to hit buy in bed and download vs. 5 minutes to go the PC. And god forbid you need to update Calibre because your Kobo updated and yadda yadda.

If you want to batch download, you could always set your Kindle for PC as the default device.

Weird way to operate. Are you trying to say you don't know you are near the end of the book? That lack of knowledge keeps you from purchasing a few more books then download. strip DRM, update metadata, edit, etc. and then send the new books to your ereader before going to bed. I will admit that I tend to consider most books to be less than a 2 hour read with the average novel of 90,000 words clocking in at 90 minutes so I may be doing this more often that the average ebook reader.

As for needing to update calibre because your Kobo updated? Simply hit the attempt to support new firmware checkbox and enjoy life. So far, I haven't found any issues with that support in any of the Kobo firmware versions I've loaded onto a Kobo ereader.

I do find it funny that you worry about firmware updates that others are complaining should be more frequent. What has it been? Feb. 2021 for the last public firmware update? And Kobo still supports their earlier ereaders other than the Mini with new firmware.

salamanderjuice · 06-01-2021, 06:36 AM

Yeah, it's totally weird not to buy books ahead in the series before I've decided I even like the series or know whether I am satisfied with the ending and can stop it there. Truly bizarre.

I also don't meticulously plan out my bedtime reading. Sometimes I read more than I think I will which is enough to finish the current book and then want to start the next one. Wild eh? They should feature me in Ripley's Believe or Not for all this strange stuff I do.

I haven't used a Kobo since last September. It's an example I gave from what's known as the "past" which stretches out beyond Feb. 2021.

ottischwenk · 06-01-2021, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

I haven't used a Kobo since last September. It's an example I gave from what's known as the "past" which stretches out beyond Feb. 2021.

For me it was not so long ago that I took it out of the cellar to look up something - but that immediately made me put it back there.

05-26-2021, 08:13 PM	#1
mkberg Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: PRS-900	epub and kindle format on one eReader? Hello, Is there an eReader that will support ePub and Kindle format? I like my Kindle but it does not have the orange light which is important to me. Thank you.

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j.p.s Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,736 Karma: 103020299 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: pb360	Unless it has just become too late, the current kindle Oasis has orange light and can read EPUB with koreader after jailbreak. Kobo can read KF7/mobi as well as EPUB. Android readers can read just about anything.

05-26-2021, 09:05 PM	#3
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,150 Karma: 237634479 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	Kobo cannot read modern Kindle formats. Few Amazon books are in the old mobi format nowadays. And they often come with DRM anyway. So it's either a jailbroken Oasis or an Android ereader. Personally I see no need for an all-in-one ereader, as long as there are Apprentices and Calibre. But YMMV.

05-28-2021, 07:44 AM	#6
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	As no one has refered the OP to Apprentice Alf, I will: google Apprentice Alf.

05-30-2021, 07:22 AM	#9
salamanderjuice Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 12122120 Join Date: Jul 2017 Device: Boox Nova 2	It's easier to use an Android eReader with the Kindle app and something else for ePubs. Way easier. You can just buy a book from the device, you don't need to jam a PC in the middle, make sure your Kindle for PC hasn't updated and then sideload the book somehow. I'll periodically remove DRM from new books I bought and convert to ePub, but to do that EVERY single purchase is the pits. It's even worse if you're like me and you have separate accounts for different countries and need to log in and out of the PC clients to strip DRM. On Android I can just clone the app and have different versions for each one. I highly recommend an Android eReader like Boox if you routinely buy between Amazon and elsewhere.

05-30-2021, 08:06 AM	#11
salamanderjuice Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 12122120 Join Date: Jul 2017 Device: Boox Nova 2	I trust Amazon and Kobo aren't going to stop selling ebooks and disappear overnight with no warning. It doesn't take much longer to strip DRM from 1 book vs. 100. The only annoying thing is that Kindle on PC doesn't have a way to batch download. But when you do it every time you have to go to the PC, log in, do all the steps every time for every book. When it's 10PM and I am in bed and want to read the next book in the series I was reading I don't want to get out of bed and hop on the PC to sideload a book. 2 seconds to hit buy in bed and download vs. 5 minutes to go the PC. And god forbid you need to update Calibre because your Kobo updated and yadda yadda.

06-01-2021, 06:36 AM	#14
salamanderjuice Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 12122120 Join Date: Jul 2017 Device: Boox Nova 2	Yeah, it's totally weird not to buy books ahead in the series before I've decided I even like the series or know whether I am satisfied with the ending and can stop it there. Truly bizarre. I also don't meticulously plan out my bedtime reading. Sometimes I read more than I think I will which is enough to finish the current book and then want to start the next one. Wild eh? They should feature me in Ripley's Believe or Not for all this strange stuff I do. I haven't used a Kobo since last September. It's an example I gave from what's known as the "past" which stretches out beyond Feb. 2021.

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