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Old 05-17-2017, 09:02 PM   #1
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Again more help with Latin, please

I'm working on The Princess Priscilla's Fortnight by Elizabeth von Arnim, for the MR library. It was first published in 1905

She quotes a poem which I think is in Latin:

O, qui me gelidis convallibus Haemi
Sistat et ingenti ramorum protegat umbra!

It's said by a young English university student doing classics who has just fallen in love at first sight with Priscilla.

Can anyone translate it into English please?

Can anyone suggest another site where people would be willing to give translations for free? I have some French, but no Latin or German.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:12 AM   #2
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QUOTE=AlexBell;3522857]
She quotes a poem which I think is in Latin:

O, qui me gelidis convallibus Haemi
Sistat et ingenti ramorum protegat umbra!
[/QUOTE]

The quote is from Virgil's Georgics. The translation I liked best is:

O, for one set me in the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under the branchs' mighty shade

Haemus likely refers to the Balkan mountains.

Sadly accurate translation of poetry is a pain. Word for word loses all the meaning so you pretty much need a poet to translate as poetry. I will admit to a certain love for running poetry through automated translators to appease my warped sense of humour. In this case:

Oh, who are you cool Balkan
Stops, and branches shade!

or

Oh, that Balkan stop me in the cool shade of branches!

The best automated translation for Latin to English I've found is: William Whitaker's Words though it is more of a Latin learning tool since it gives more information than most of us need.

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Old 05-18-2017, 06:26 AM   #3
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QUOTE=AlexBell;3522857]
She quotes a poem which I think is in Latin:

O, qui me gelidis convallibus Haemi
Sistat et ingenti ramorum protegat umbra!
The quote is from Virgil's Georgics. The translation I liked best is:

O, for one set me in the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under the branchs' mighty shade

Haemus likely refers to the Balkan mountains.

Sadly accurate translation of poetry is a pain. Word for word loses all the meaning so you pretty much need a poet to translate as poetry. I will admit to a certain love for running poetry through automated translators to appease my warped sense of humour. In this case:

Oh, who are you cool Balkan
Stops, and branches shade!

or

Oh, that Balkan stop me in the cool shade of branches!

The best automated translation for Latin to English I've found is: William Whitaker's Words though it is more of a Latin learning tool since it gives more information than most of us need.[/QUOTE]

Thanks so much, David. I'm most grateful for your help. I'm working on providing ebooks of Elizabeth von Arnim's books for the MobileRead library, and for good or for bad I've set myself the task of providing translations for the German, French, and Latin she uses as end notes. I appreciate all the help I've been given.
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In Oxford World's Classic edition, translation by Peter Fallon, it is :

Quote:
Oh, for the one who'd lay me down to rest
in cool valleys of the Haemus range and mind
me in the shade of mighty branches!
And explanation on Haemus
http://pantheon.org/articles/h/haemus.html

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QUOTE=AlexBell;3522857]
She quotes a poem which I think is in Latin:

O, qui me gelidis convallibus Haemi
Sistat et ingenti ramorum protegat umbra!
The quote is from Virgil's Georgics. The translation I liked best is:

O, for one set me in the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under the branchs' mighty shade
.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't you come up with:

O, for one who will set me within the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under those branches mighty shade!

- just based on what the rough translation said? Certainly such a translation would read logically.
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The quote is from Virgil's Georgics. The translation I liked best is:

O, for one set me in the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under the branchs' mighty shade
.
Couldn't you come up with:

O, for one who will set me within the cool glens of Haemus,
and shield me under those branches mighty shade!

- just based on what the rough translation said? Certainly such a translation would read logically. [/QUOTE]

Thanks
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