New Voyage coming in November _ rumour [FALSE]

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by shamanNS

It is. For now I'm using it most of the time as if it were Kindle Touch, ie disabled the built-in light via KUAL extension and sitting in front of a lamp

Don't turn on wifi...

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cerem0ny

Ack, no idea. Was using the voyage sans its case over a period of two weeks, just putting it into a bare pocket, and somewhere along those two weeks (of course) it gets scratched somehow.
Really impressed with the device though, at the way I've been abusing it it should look much uglier haha

There are many posts on MR saying to use a case and NEVER put any Reader in a pocket. You've only yourself to blame for damaging your Voyage.

[GoSharks]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

There are many posts on MR saying to use a case and NEVER put any Reader in a pocket. You've only yourself to blame for damaging your Voyage.

Congratulations Jon! I believe this wins the 2015 award for "Most Inane, Unnecessary and Pedantic Post" (so far)....

[Barty]

Originally Posted by GoSharks

Congratulations Jon! I believe this wins the 2015 award for "Most Inane, Unnecessary and Pedantic Post" (so far)....

What's so inane and pedantic about it? Seems fairly sensible to me.

[cerem0ny]

Originally Posted by Barty

What's so inane and pedantic about it? Seems fairly sensible to me.

Basically everything. However I'm blaming my Grandma, just coz if she was still alive I'm certain it would still be in its case

[happysnapper22]

Originally Posted by barryem

...but I did see the first Sony readers in the stores years before that. Even the original Sony ereader was light years ahead of the Kindle with respect to physical design.Barry

My wife had a Sony eReader (PRS 600 or something like that) yep slick physical design, seemed to be well put together, trouble started to want to read something on it. Truly awful software that made it hard to get content on the device and when you did the screen was awful. Put us both off eReaders for many years. When we finally looked at a Kindle in our local supermarket we purchased on the spot.

Sony eReader was sold on almost unused, Kindle hardly ever out of wife's hand, first basic Kindle, then PW1 followed by PW2 and now KV. Fab devices to read from and that's all that really counts in the end.

Originally Posted by happysnapper22

My wife had a Sony eReader (PRS 600 or something like that) yep slick physical design, seemed to be well put together, trouble started to want to read something on it. Truly awful software that made it hard to get content on the device and when you did the screen was awful. Put us both off eReaders for many years. When we finally looked at a Kindle in our local supermarket we purchased on the spot.

Sony eReader was sold on almost unused, Kindle hardly ever out of wife's hand, first basic Kindle, then PW1 followed by PW2 and now KV. Fab devices to read from and that's all that really counts in the end.

The Sony PRS-950 remains my all time favorite design for an eInk reader. Wider 7" screen that could display two columns of text in landscape mode. Well built with metal body, thin, sleek design with narrow bezel. The buttons were not well thought out as far as where they were located though. But I agree, the Sony FW sucked and the fact that I could not sync multiple readers or with the computer without a LOT of effort sucked even worse. But the PRS-950 was expensive. I think it cost $400 back then. Sony thought we would always pay for top quality, but that wasn't the case since they struggled to sell their readers.

[barryem]

Originally Posted by happysnapper22

My wife had a Sony eReader (PRS 600 or something like that) yep slick physical design, seemed to be well put together, trouble started to want to read something on it. Truly awful software that made it hard to get content on the device and when you did the screen was awful. Put us both off eReaders for many years. When we finally looked at a Kindle in our local supermarket we purchased on the spot.

Sony eReader was sold on almost unused, Kindle hardly ever out of wife's hand, first basic Kindle, then PW1 followed by PW2 and now KV. Fab devices to read from and that's all that really counts in the end.

My first e-ink reader was the Kindle Keyboard. As I said I only played in the store with the original Sony ereader. In those days I was reading on a Palm Pilot, or one of the Palm models. I went through a number of them and I don't recall which I had when I saw that Sony.

Anyway I liked the Kindle Keyboard a lot but I was always clumsily hitting a button while I was reading and taking myself out of the book or popping something up to distract me. I had considered buying the original Kindle but it just looked way too clumsy to hold. The second one looked better but not good enough. I was glad to finally move to the Kindle 4 and then the Touch to get away from all those keys. It kind of reminded me of driving through an obstacle course.

Since then a friend has been given an original Kindle. I'd loaned him an old Paperwhite a few times and he thought this would be a good replacement. He had the same problem I had and I later gave him my old Kindle 4, which he likes a lot better.

I think they got the design right with the Touch. That was the first Kindle that really made sense. And since then they've been getting better and better. I read with a Voyage now and I hope they come out with a newer and better model but I don't really care if they don't. It's hard to imagine any important improvements.

I also have a Kobo Glo and a Kobo Aura and they're nearly as good. Of course the Voyage has far better features and specs but when you're reading those don't really matter. They're all great for reading. I do like the Voyage and use it most but I'd be happy if I was stuck with one of the others. I wouldn't be happy being stuck with an original Kindle. I'd probably go back to a Palm Pilot.

Barry

[induna]

Originally Posted by happysnapper22

My wife had a Sony eReader (PRS 600 or something like that) yep slick physical design, seemed to be well put together, trouble started to want to read something on it. Truly awful software that made it hard to get content on the device and when you did the screen was awful. Put us both off eReaders for many years. When we finally looked at a Kindle in our local supermarket we purchased on the spot.

Sony eReader was sold on almost unused, Kindle hardly ever out of wife's hand, first basic Kindle, then PW1 followed by PW2 and now KV. Fab devices to read from and that's all that really counts in the end.

To be fair to Sony, the PRS-600 was by far the worst screen they ever produced. This was because it was the first touch-screen ereader, but they elected to use a resistive touch technology which, unfortunately, used a rather reflective and less than entirely transparent above the e-ink display.

The first e-ink reader available outside Japan, the PRS-500, was what started all of this. It was revolutionary, built like a tank, and very, very usable. The follow-up model, the PRS-505, set the benchmark for build quality, which still may not have been equaled, although the Voyage is a very nice device. I was very sad to see Sony disappear from a market that it pioneered.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by happysnapper22

My wife had a Sony eReader (PRS 600 or something like that) yep slick physical design, seemed to be well put together, trouble started to want to read something on it. Truly awful software that made it hard to get content on the device and when you did the screen was awful. Put us both off eReaders for many years. When we finally looked at a Kindle in our local supermarket we purchased on the spot.

Sony eReader was sold on almost unused, Kindle hardly ever out of wife's hand, first basic Kindle, then PW1 followed by PW2 and now KV. Fab devices to read from and that's all that really counts in the end.

The Sony PRS-x00's had crap screens. It's innovation was touch, but the touch layer Sony put over the screen made the display less clear. The x50's had pearl screens with no intervening layer (IR).

[Jason90]

Ohhh getting excited now...been waiting on the voyage successor for months after having replaced my previous voyage with a PW3 thinking i'd save some money and didn't really need the page press buttons...but like others have said the screen is definitely not the same despite sharing a 300 ppi screen.

My hopes are a 7-8" screen with mp3/audiobook capability,the i.mx 7 cpu with 1 GB of ram and a decent web browser instead of the awful 'experimental browser' which is basically useless as it crashes on all but the most basic of sites.

Perhaps even a youtube app...but that's probably pushing it too far lol

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Jason90

My hopes are a 7-8" screen with mp3/audiobook capability,the i.mx 7 cpu with 1 GB of ram and a decent web browser instead of the awful 'experimental browser' which is basically useless as it crashes on all but the most basic of sites.

Either you'll be disappointed or I'll be completely shocked.

I think you'll be disappointed

[eschwartz]

An actual usable browser on the Kindle E-Ink is very unrealistic.
Video-enabled even more so.


For an E-Ink ereader (meant for reading books) you do not need 1GB RAM. Which is why ereaders don't usually come with that much RAM.
Without that much RAM, the browser won't fare so well and video is a nonstarter.


Video is also a nonstarter because you can't get Flash on mobile devices (well, you can but it sucks).
Maybe HTML5 video could be arranged, but that is still -- unfortunately -- not available everywhere.

[Jason90]

Originally Posted by Barty

Either you'll be disappointed or I'll be completely shocked.

I think you'll be disappointed

Well in what ways can they upgrade the current voyage?

I don't think the screen could get much better so the only option will be to increase it's size and hopefully give the voyage more abilities with an upgraded cpu/ram.

I'll be buying one regardless ,i was wanting to go back to the voyage after being slightly disappointed in the PW3 contrast,thought i might as well hold off from the next version though seeing as the price is basically the same in the UK as it was at launch!

[Jason90]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

An actual usable browser on the Kindle E-Ink is very unrealistic.
Video-enabled even more so.


For an E-Ink ereader (meant for reading books) you do not need 1GB RAM. Which is why ereaders don't usually come with that much RAM.
Without that much RAM, the browser won't fare so well and video is a nonstarter.


Video is also a nonstarter because you can't get Flash on mobile devices (well, you can but it sucks).
Maybe HTML5 video could be arranged, but that is still -- unfortunately -- not available everywhere.

Well the main thing i would like to do on the kindle other than reading books is to be able to actually load up any page i want and surf and get the information i need without it crashing back to the homescreen.

I mean i know when you highlight a word on a kindle if you are connected to wifi it automatically brings up wikipedia but many times i need to search other sites for references ect (i'm mainly a non-fiction reader),and although i can tolerate the slow experience of the 'experimental browser' 8 time out of time even if it loads the page it will crash,other ereader's that feature web browsers don't do this and actually function so i think amazon should prioritize this feature,and with the i.mx 7 cpu they could probably have the best ereader based web experience out there.

And yeah i kinda said the youtube thing more as a joke,but according to goodereader the i.mx 7 is able to playback video's smoothly ala ipad.