George R.R. Martin Has a Message For Anyone Who Thinks He Won’t Finish A Song of Ice

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Geralt

Oh you can express it DD. Of course. Same as I am saying, I don't really care much. Of course we are both rational people and we know that good old George doesn't care either way.

However, the topic here is his Fuck you reaction, which I find completely understandable and human. His fans are fearing for his life, not because they see him as a human being, but as a writer who's only job is to finish some books they are hung up on.

I don't fear for his life. I just want him to kick the bucket already, as fast as possible.

That way, Brandon Sanderson can finish it off in a timely fashion.

I wonder which fan group GRRM should be more irritated about?

[Geralt]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Mostly because your suggestion that people need to "stfu about it" came across as being awfully judgemental about who and how they are.

What are you even on about? This entire debate, this forum, all the opinion and so forth are proof that my "suggestion" as you call it, has no impact what so ever. I can have opinion of other people opinions. Honestly, why do I even have to explain this?

I never said: "I suggest you shut the fuck up" to anybody here. GRRM did that.
All I did was give my opinion on that situation. And that opinion, because I can tell you don't get it, boils down to this:

We shouldn't worry about the things we can't change or influence.

or as Americans say it: Don't sweat the small stuff. GRRM and all his shenanigans are small stuff to me. I wouldn't dream of being bitter about a few books.

Um, excuse me Mr. Martin can you make sure you have written everything before you die, because I really want to read how it ends?

That my friend is a shit attitude to have in this world. The sun doesn't revolve around you and it's not called GRRM either.

[Geralt]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I don't fear for his life. I just want him to kick the bucket already, as fast as possible.

That way, Brandon Sanderson can finish it off in a timely fashion.

I wonder which fan group GRRM should be more irritated about?

Aren't you a fan. How utterly delightful lol

I'm not a Sanderson fan. I tried Elantris, and he totally put me off with his philosophizing, slow pace (no wonder he could finish Jordan), and all around boring dialogue. He doesn't write complex worlds, like GRRM does. His main quality is unique magic systems, and that really doesn't fit with ASOIAF where you have low magic fantasy world.

I will give him another try with Mistborn, but if he fails there, I wont bother anymore.

[DiapDealer]

And that's why we cant' have nice things.

You specifically (in your first post) said that people need to stfu about it. I am people. Then the blah, blah (George is not your entertainment slave) variation on Gaiman's meme. Sounding for all the world like you believed it was completely impossible for someone to be worried about George's health/age jeopardizing the completion of a beloved series WITHOUT also being a callous creep who beieved George was nothing but their Entertainment Slave.

You promptly dismissed anybody's opinion that wasn't yours (They're Just Books), and made the discussion about "who and how" those people (whose opinions differed from yours) "were", but yet got angry/defensive when someone dared make it about who and how you are.

Good day.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I don't fear for his life. I just want him to kick the bucket already, as fast as possible.

That way, Brandon Sanderson can finish it off in a timely fashion.

I wonder which fan group GRRM should be more irritated about?

OK, how about he goes off and does whatever and Sanderson finishes off as if he had died? I don't want him to die but I would love to see what Sanderson can do with this.

I have enjoyed just about everything Sanderson wrote and the man understands the concept of writing on a regular basis.

[tubemonkey]

I have absolutely no idea what these books are about. Do dragons get killed in these stories?

[GreenMonkey]

You can't rush art, and writing is art. If he rushes it, it would probably just suck more.

I'll take slow if it results in a better product in the end.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Geralt

Aren't you a fan. How utterly delightful lol

I'm not a Sanderson fan. I tried Elantris, and he totally put me off with his philosophizing, slow pace (no wonder he could finish Jordan), and all around boring dialogue. He doesn't write complex worlds, like GRRM does. His main quality is unique magic systems, and that really doesn't fit with ASOIAF where you have low magic fantasy world.

I will give him another try with Mistborn, but if he fails there, I wont bother anymore.

With your attitude towards everyone on this thread, you have put yourself in the position where I desperately want to yank your chain as hard as possible.

I don't really care what your opinion of Sanderson's writing is -- I happen to believe he does an excellent job at both. Elantris was his first book, so perhaps not representative of his current skill level although even so I enjoyed it tremendously.

I happen to like both GRRM's writing (when he gets around to it) and Sanderson's, but plenty of people like Sanderson and not GRRM. Others, like you, enjoy GRRM but not Sanderson. Different strokes for different folks; there will be as many of your lot who will ditch ASOIAF if Sanderson takes over as will only start the series so they can read how Sanderson steers it. I get the best of both worlds.

No one really needs your approval except you.

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

OK, how about he goes off and does whatever and Sanderson finishes off as if he had died? I don't want him to die but I would love to see what Sanderson can do with this.

I have enjoyed just about everything Sanderson wrote and the man understands the concept of writing on a regular basis.

Sanderson FTW!

I don't really want GRRM to die, of course (see above) but I do think Sanderson would do a great job. At least I know if GRRM does die, things will still turn out all right, so I'm not too concerned about what does happen.

[Geralt]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

And that's why we cant' have nice things.

You specifically (in your first post) said that people need to stfu about it. I am people.

Yeah I am people too. Martin is people too. You are people too.
Im not talking about homo sapiens species here. Dont cloud the issue by expanding the definition of people in this case conveniently. Im talking about people who go around acting like crybabies. As far as I saw, neither you nor I belong in that group.

Sounding for all the world like you believed it was completely impossible for someone to be worried about George's health/age jeopardizing the completion of a beloved series WITHOUT also being a callous creep who beieved George was nothing but their Entertainment Slave.

I suppose it is possible, but I think it is not very probable.
Most of these people from their posts on yt, twitter and other internet social sites go around measuring size of Martin's coffin. And while that would be utterly despicable if it was any other person it is somehow ok here, because he has books to write.

You promptly dismissed anybody's opinion that wasn't yours (They're Just Books),

In my opinion they are just books. Thinking that for myself doesn't dismiss other people's opinions. They can choose to agree or disagree with me.

and made the discussion about "who and how" those people (whose opinions differed from yours) "were", but yet got angry/defensive when someone dared make it about who and how you are.

I discussed people's opinions including Martin's, yours, my own and so on. And so did you. But you went one step further and accused me of pretending about how I feel and think? Ridiculous.

Good day.

Dont good day me, you dont wish me a good day, you dont know me, and you just come off as a pompous ass when you finish your posts like that.

[Geralt]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I don't really care what your opinion of Sanderson's writing is

Only one thing then. If you are not interested in exchanging opinions with me on this forum, don't quote me.
Simple as that, you don't start a conversation with someone you don't want to talk to.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Geralt

Only one thing then. If you are not interested in exchanging opinions with me on this forum, don't quote me.
Simple as that, you don't start a conversation with someone you don't want to talk to.

But originally, I thought you might be someone whose opinion I did care about. I care about the opinions of people who care about mine.

[GlenBarrington]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

He uses a sleek Kaypro II. At 29 pounds, it's quite portable.

That's his problem, I own a Commodore Executive 64, a portable C64 that weighs in at a light and fluffy 17 pounds.



The sense of computing freedom is . . . incredible!

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

That's his problem, I own a Commodore Executive 64, a portable C64 that weighs in at a light and fluffy 17 pounds.



The sense of computing freedom is . . . incredible!

Wow! I never saw that one before; it sure is sleek. What wonderful times we live in.

...and it even has a banana storage compartment

[GlenBarrington]

It is indeed . . .

A hip and happenin' time.