Steve Jobs Calls 7-Inch Tablets 'Dead on Arrival', Says 10-Inches Minimum

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by petermillard

The 'netbook/notebook/laptop' line has been blurred a lot - is it screen size, price or specification that's the determining factor??

I'd say all three. Netbooks usually have: 10" displays, 1~2 GB RAM, 160~250 GB HDD, 1~2 GHz Intel Atom chip, webcam, NO optical drive, weigh less than 3 lbs, and priced $250~400.

[Graham]

I'd say it's screen size. The weight and price should come down and the specs should rise over time, but it's the form factor that makes them a netbook. (I'd say anything with a 10" to 12" screen, unless you want to start calling the 12" ones mini-laptops. I'm not sure 'notebook' has really caught on.)

Graham

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

My low end android smartphone, out of the box, does more for me than any iPhone would.

I received the phone i just put the sim card inside, start it, and voila. With the iPhone, it would have been install iTunes, activate so apple give you the authorization to use YOUR phone..
The simple fact of "don't need iTunes" make android way better the iOS to me. And that without adding the other thing i can do with android (use my phone as modem, use mp3 as ringtone) out of the box, that the iPhone requires you to mess around for such basic things , as well as putting music or video on your phone. Just so much easier the android way.

As to windows, it seam to work out fine for lots of people.

? lnstall & activate iTunes on an iPhone? It comes installed. There is no "activation," unless you mean that if you don't have an Apple account, you need to get one to buy from the iTunes Store. No different than buying from anywhere else.

[Dylrob]

Originally Posted by Harmon

? lnstall & activate iTunes on an iPhone? It comes installed. There is no "activation," unless you mean that if you don't have an Apple account, you need to get one to buy from the iTunes Store. No different than buying from anywhere else.

She means you need to activate the iPhone by connecting it to a computer which has iTunes installed. Then any file transferring is also handled through iTunes.

Android phones do not require such activation. And when you plug them into a computer they function as an external drive.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by R. Reed

Sounds like a good size to me. It would fit in my purse and I could replace my first gen iPod touch and have an even bigger screen for movies and color comics and stuff.

What you say is true, but only if you don't already have an iPhone. If you had an iPhone, would your next purchase be a 7 inch pad or the current iPad? I think many (most) people would buy the current one, while and a smaller number would buy the 7. Would very many people buy both a current ipad AND a 7 incher? And how many people might ditch their iPhones for a basic phone plus a 7 incher?

It seems to me that the 7 incher does not enlarge Apple's sales - it just redistributes them.

Now personally, I'd get both. But it would be an extravagance.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Penforhire

I think Apple made a mistake in the new 11" Air. Battery life needs to be greater than the 13", not less. Larger laptops are more likely to used near power than smaller ones. So they need greater battery life. At least that is how I approach where I use my netbook.

The 11" Air does throw a small wrench into the iPad decision, given its nearly-instant-on with 30-day standby and considerably more horsepower. Still not a tablet though.

I read somewhere that they have a patent on a screen hinge that would convert an Air into a Pad.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Dylrob

She means you need to activate the iPhone by connecting it to a computer which has iTunes installed. Then any file transferring is also handled through iTunes.

Android phones do not require such activation. And when you plug them into a computer they function as an external drive.

"I see," said the blind man.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by Harmon

"I see," said the blind man...

...as he picked up his hammer and saw.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Harmon

? lnstall & activate iTunes on an iPhone? It comes installed. There is no "activation," unless you mean that if you don't have an Apple account, you need to get one to buy from the iTunes Store. No different than buying from anywhere else.

Right. I have an iPhone from/for work but do not have an iTunes account...

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Right. I have an iPhone from/for work but do not have an iTunes account...

Sometimes the operator will activate the phone (or will do if you ask).

Anyway, a friend of mine came in "can you help me fix my computer, i need to install iTunes so I can activate my brand new iPhone." Me :

[BWhite]

Sort of a level playing field competition...

7" Galaxy Tablet with Wi-Fi only is rumored
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/25/g...499-99-sprint/
to be headed towards Best Buy. Where it can compete with the no-contract iPad in the same store.

From a weight perspective it will be 380 g (0.84 lb) for the Galaxy Tab versus 680 g (1.5 lb) for the iPad.

[Seanette]

Originally Posted by WillAdams

The big problem is that 7" tablets aren't pocketable in ordinary pockets --- but they do fit in most pants cargo pockets, and one can get shirts which have pockets large enough to hold them (or have the shirts tailor-made) --- but how many people are willing to do these things? Is it a sufficiently large market? Especially when one subtracts the number of people w/ a cell phone who won't be willing (or need) to carry another device?

mldavis2 point about the size of the print area in a paperback is a cogent one --- high-density displays on cell phones make them much more useable for such reading.

William
(who has some pants w/ cargo pockets, and shirts w/ large pockets and has had shirts tailor-made and would like to see a replacement for the Newton made)

Also, the clothing you describe is most commonly found with that size pocket for men, which leaves women in a not-good situation. Even if we want to carry a purse all the time (I'm sure I'm not the only woman around who doesn't always want to have to keep track of the thing), the point was made in another post that a lot of purses just don't have room for something the size of a Kindle or iPad. If a given article of female clothing has pockets (an annoying percentage do not), they're very likely to be too small to hold such a device.

[Seanette]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

Aside from the fact the one Astak reader I have died within two months of purchasing it, I like the JetBook Lite even better because, not only are the batteries user replaceable, they can be easily changed in the field with easily obtained AA batteries that can be recharged when out of the reader. for the same reason, I'm eschewing all battery powered electronic devices that run on anything other than AAs or AAAs.

You were able to find a cell phone that runs on AAs or AAAs? Or do you just not have a cell phone?

[Seanette]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

I would much rather have a 10" netbook than a 10" tablet. In fact, I do have a 10" netbook.

They make netbooks that run on AA or AAA batteries?

[scveteran]

Originally Posted by leebase

Tablet apps need the room. Of course you can run phone apps making them loom bigger, which is all you'll have for your android tablets to begin with anyway.

As he pointed out, the 7" screen is actually half the screen space of the iPad. Not enough of an improvement over smart phones to make it worthwhile losing the ability to put it in your pocket.

Still, Jobs doesn't like net books, but they sell in the tens of millions.

Lee

I have to disagree with you. The 7 inch screen allows me to read something. I can't do that on my phone. Any of us with low vision just can't do that.