Hi, asking for help with my Kindle Oasis (9th Generation)

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by shalym

What I don't understand is why I'm seeing the collected books showing in the list? I've attached a picture of what I'm seeing. Notice the collection entitled "Spenser". All of the books in the Spenser series are in that collection, but they are also showing outside of the collection. What is the point of even having the collection if I have to wade through all of my books in order to find the next one I want to read??

Shari

It is much the same as before: if you don’t want to see Collections mixed in with books, then you need to select that option in the settings. And then you’ll only see them in Collections view, with Uncollected and the other Collections.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by applesauce

Another one here who hates it with a passion. I sideload more than half my books and use kindle unlimited and prime. The new home & library are so messy. I have text view only, which will not work in Home now.

I find it hangs when side loading. I might have to eject the device several times.

I wish they did something useful like a page-down function. Really annoying when you have 52 collections.

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘text view only, which will not work in Home’.

It seems you do not have the most recent update. It added page up/down buttons to List/Grid/Collections views. And you can drag the scroll position indicator to the desired position.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by tomsem

It is much the same as before: if you don’t want to see Collections mixed in with books, then you need to select that option in the settings. And then you’ll only see them in Collections view, with Uncollected and the other Collections.

NO. Before, I had the option to only show some of my collections, along with the uncollected books.

Now, I have the choice to see all 85 of my collections, including the "uncollected" collection.

I used to have only a few collections showing on my Kindle. One for the current year, where I put the books as I finish reading them, and maybe one for whatever author and/or series I was interested in at that particular time. I would sort by "recent", and the collections would show at the top of the list, and any books that weren't yet collected would show underneath them.

I'm attaching a picture of the library view of my Paperwhite 5, which hasn't gotten the new UI yet.

Shari

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by shalym

NO. Before, I had the option to only show some of my collections, along with the uncollected books.

Now, I have the choice to see all 85 of my collections, including the "uncollected" collection.


Shari

You still have option to show only some of your collections in List/Grid view (the ‘starred/downloaded’ collections, or in current terminology, ‘favorites’). Go to Settings, Device Options, Advanced Options, Home & Library, Collections and you’ll see ‘Show favorites in Library’ option.

What you no longer have is ‘collections sort order’ which showed collections (starred) collections followed by books not in them. This is replaced with the new Collections view which can be filtered to show only collections (favorites or others) which have downloaded members in them. If you clear the Downloaded filter, then you’ll see all of them.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by tomsem

You still have option to show only some of your collections in List/Grid view (the ‘starred/downloaded’ collections, or in current terminology, ‘favorites’). Go to Settings, Device Options, Advanced Options, Home & Library, Collections and you’ll see ‘Show favorites in Library’ option.

What you no longer have is ‘collections sort order’ which showed collections (starred) collections followed by books not in them. This is replaced with the new Collections view which can be filtered to show only collections (favorites or others) which have downloaded members in them. If you clear the Downloaded filter, then you’ll see all of them.

Exactly--what I want to see is my starred collections followed by the books not in them...that's my point. Why in the world would I want the collected books showing in the list along with the collections that they are in? This has made collections useless as a tool to quickly find books on my device, to the point where I may as well not show them on the device at all and only use the search function.

Shari

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by shalym

Exactly--what I want to see is my starred collections followed by the books not in them...that's my point. Why in the world would I want the collected books showing in the list along with the collections that they are in? This has made collections useless as a tool to quickly find books on my device, to the point where I may as well not show them on the device at all and only use the search function.

Shari

Originally Posted by shalym

Exactly--what I want to see is my starred collections followed by the books not in them...that's my point. Why in the world would I want the collected books showing in the list along with the collections that they are in? This has made collections useless as a tool to quickly find books on my device, to the point where I may as well not show them on the device at all and only use the search function.

Shari

I would suggest keeping the Downloaded filter on for the most part. Then you’ll only see collections that have downloads in them. Of course Uncollected has all of the books not in collections, but you have to open it to see them listed (or gridded, actually).

(And yes, not sure whose idea it was to make Downloaded a filter. It works, but it takes extra tap to turn it on, where before it was a toggle. At least so far, this idea hasn’t migrated to the Kindle apps. Hope it doesn’t!)

I sort of understand the idea of using collections to help find books, but I never cared to put in the housekeeping (including ‘collection design’) that would make that effective. I have 3000+ books and realistically the only way to find them is Search: I wouldn’t know which collection I’d put them in, and even if I did know, it’s too inefficient to navigate to the collection and then to a book inside of one.

Collections as implemented for Kindle are more like tags rather than folders, despite the way they appear visually in the interface. But as tags they are crippled: you should be able to filter and search your library by more than one tag at a time as it’s perfectly normal for a book to have more than category or property of interest. And as they are not really folders, you cannot nest them as one might like to. Neither fish nor fowl.

I think Amazon did pretty well with Series grouping (US and UK only I think?) and think we’ll see Author grouping in the next year or so.

Genre grouping is probably too much to hope for, but if we’re allowed to dream, they’d automatically tag books by category and let you use those to search and filter using those (and let you add custom ones).