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Old 04-28-2015, 08:26 AM   #16
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disagree, spending an extra £50 to preserve/get the most out my eyes is a bargain, when we could blow that much on a single takeout family meal.

So if you read several hours a day, like me, get the best screen on the market.
I agree with you. Reading is my passion, so I want the top e-ink reader. I sacrifice in many, many other areas of my life for my kids.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:59 AM   #17
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the experimental browser is crap but that is to be expected. B&W, small screen e-ink is just a losing proposition for web browsing.
True. On the other hand, it could be a lot better, even on E-Ink.
So if you really care, it has been done, c.f. the SkipStone hack.
I'm crazy, so I actually use my Kindle for browsing and typing this sentence.

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it did not arrive pre-registered to my account as advertised but that is no big deal. it has always puzzled me how they can pre-register a device in a sealed container anyway ???
They know the serial number, and register it in their database. The Kindle updates its internal registration record as soon as the buyer connects to WiFi for the first time.
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:29 AM   #18
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True. On the other hand, it could be a lot better, even on E-Ink.
So if you really care, it has been done, c.f. the SkipStone hack.
I'm crazy, so I actually use my Kindle for browsing and typing this sentence.


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one of the preset browser bookmarks in my kindle voyage is dailymail.co.uk - probably the worst designed +mobile unfriendly newspaper sites in existence. I expect they paid mega bucks for that pre-set , yet their site's front page is just unreadable on voyage screen.

I thought about trying to get my dropbox via that browser , & hence access my calibre books copies, but I suspect that just leads to more documents vs books grief, so I think I'll stick to USB sideloads & leave the wifi off, for the long battery life.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:05 PM   #19
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True. On the other hand, it could be a lot better, even on E-Ink.
So if you really care, it has been done, c.f. the SkipStone hack.
I'm crazy, so I actually use my Kindle for browsing and typing this sentence.

They know the serial number, and register it in their database. The Kindle updates its internal registration record as soon as the buyer connects to WiFi for the first time.
Does the SkipStone hack work on the Voyage?

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Old 04-28-2015, 04:14 PM   #20
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So you prefer the Paperwhite's screen, turned off the Voyage's light sensor and don't use its page buttons. May I ask why you even have a Voyage?
I bought the Voyage because it's smaller and lighter. I wasn't sure if the screen would be better or not. I was perfectly happy with the screen on the Paperwhite.

The only time the Paperwhite's screen looks better is when they're side by side and even then the difference is small. While reading both seem perfect. In reality I don't think the Voyage's screen is an improvement but it's still excellent.

More and more I'm realizing how much I like a device to be small and light when I have to hold it for extended periods.

And there's another reason I bought a Voyage: I'm fond of ereaders and I was curious. It's not that I can afford it. I had to save quite a while to get it. But I can manage it and I wanted to take a look. Now I've looked and I like it. I'm still within my 30 day return period but I'm keeping it.

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Old 04-28-2015, 04:33 PM   #21
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Has Amazon officially declared that the top layer is Gorilla Glass? Either way, there's still the same very thin and fragile e-ink glass substrate as in every other similar device, isn't there?
I watched the original announcement of the Voyage and I thought I remembered that it was Gorilla Glass but I've just spent a while googling for confirmation and I only found a couple of reviews that said it was. Most reviews and, more telling, Amazon's specs, don't mention that it is, so I guess I remembered that wrong.

I've been using tablets since there were tablets and I finally broke the screen on one (a Nook HD) about 6 months ago by dropping it on a concrete sidewalk. I used to worry a lot about scratching them but even in the days of plastic screens I've never scratched one. I used a screen saver on my original Palm Pilot but not on any of the models that came after and nary a scratch. I'm pretty careful.

Somehow, though, ereaders seem more precarious to me, probably because they mean more to me. I've kept my ereaders in cases for the most part because I was afraid to scratch one. It wouldn't matter so much with a tablet but that would be too distracting on an ereader.

I guess I'm less afraid of that with the glass so I'm using it without a case, gorilla or not. But I wish I hadn't googled that. I felt pretty confident and now you've spoiled it for me.

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Old 04-28-2015, 08:04 PM   #22
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Does the SkipStone hack work on the Voyage?

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Yes, but you need to apply the jailbreak over the serial port. That would be part of "really caring".
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:19 PM   #23
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Well, I finally ordered my voyage today. Can't wait to get it. I'm crossing my fingers that the screen is not discolored.
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Ok cybmole what I should have said in my post is that each of us needs to make a subjective evaluation of what the improvements are worth to us. There is no wrong answer here, Cymole obviously values the increase in the resolution more than I do, and that's fine. The issue here is it worth $80 or 52 pounds (conversions by XE.com)? For Cymole it obviously is and that's fine. Each of us needs to make that subjective decision and there is no wrong answers.

I too spend a lot of my day reading both at home and on my commute to and from the office. So much so a few years ago my wife told me that I better get an ereader and we were about to get run out of our basement becuase of all the paperbacks doen there and pretty soon we were going to get over run streight out of the house becuase of all the paperbacks. I wear eyglases becuase I can't see things far away, my wife does also, my son is doomed he will probably wear them in the future as both of his parents wear them. I have seen the voyage, a demo of it, and I am not that impressed with the increase in resolution, however a lot of you are and that's fine. Each of us needs to make an subjective judgement.

I think that the light sensor is a great idea as sometimes I reflectively put the light on my paperwhite at the max, not becuase I need it there becuase there is an icon for it. I think having the light intensity spot on every time would be a great improvement for me, however I am not willing to pay 52 pounds for it.

I am not willing to give anything for the haptic buttons. I am actually quite enamored with the idea of a touch screen and taping the screen for the page turns. I can understand however that some would disagree and preferr the buttons, there is something to be said for actually touching a button and the feedback from that.

I am waiting with baited breath to see what improvements Amazon releases with the new models this fall, I hope that the current model voyage becomes the new model paperwhite while the new voyage gets a whole series of upgrades. I will be rather salivating over that light sensor.

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Old 05-01-2015, 05:26 PM   #25
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My voyage came in about two hours ago and I find it to be a very good upgrade. The screen is better and the light is even. My case came in as well. I may have found a solution to some people's problems with the page press being flush with the screen. My case came with a screen protector, so after I had it installed, I put a tiny bubble sticker in the middle of the forward page press line. It actually works fabulous.(no multiple page turns)😀 Now, I will be able to find it in the dark. It may seem stupid, but whatever works....

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