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Old 12-21-2010, 12:42 PM   #16
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I actually prefer the 24 hr clock (or "military time" as it seems to be known here in the USA.) It's just easier - if someone says they arrived somewhere at 11:00, here in the USA you have to ask them was that AM or PM? If everyone used the 24 hr clock, you would know that 1100 was a morning time while 2300 meant they got there at night! (I run into this all the time as a AAA dispatcher, so it is a bit of a pet peeve for me. )

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Old 12-21-2010, 05:02 PM   #17
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Are you trying to stress how ancient the 12h format is?
I'm surprised that Europe has apparently replaced all the analog clocks with digital. Poor Big Ben.

Now I understand what Douglas Adams was ranting about regarding digital watches in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. No wonder he became so depressed in his later works.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:07 AM   #18
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Is it that difficult to just do simple math? I mean really, if you see PM add 12.
No it's not that simple. Does 12 AM means 12:00 (noon)? Does 12 P.M. means 24:00 (PM so + 12, nidnight)? I'm afraid not.

Let's look at order of hours in 12-h time notation: ... 10 A.M. 11 A.M. 12 P.M. 1 P.M ... 10 P.M. 11 P.M. 12 A.M. 1 A.M. ...

I don't want to start a flame war: which notation is better, but I want to point out that besides math you have to remember 2 special cases!

I've finished math studies but I feel uncomfortable that i have to do simple math and check 2 special cases every time I'm checking time on my Kindle.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:38 AM   #19
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Kindle 4 has 24 hour clock without hacks

At least when the language is Spanish
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Old 10-30-2011, 08:39 AM   #20
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At least when the language is Spanish
But, are you able to set it to 12hr?
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Old 10-31-2011, 01:01 AM   #21
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Set the language in setting to 'English (United Kingdom)', the time will show in 24hour.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:53 AM   #22
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But, are you able to set it to 12hr?
No, for a given language there is a fixed format
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As an American, I'd love the option for 24 hr and 12 hr. I work with both formats often and can see the benefit of both (and even bigger benefit to just using 24 hr period).

As for watches, one could easily put two sets of numbers at each mark so that you don't have to change from a 12 hr watch in terms of analog. I doubt most people would be confused over whether it is 0100 or 1300 or any other time any more than they would be confused knowing whether it is 1am or 1pm.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:21 AM   #24
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I'll make sure to choose English UK language. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:54 PM   #25
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I'm surprised that Europe has apparently replaced all the analog clocks with digital. Poor Big Ben.

Now I understand what Douglas Adams was ranting about regarding digital watches in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. No wonder he became so depressed in his later works.
Big Ben isn't the clock, or the tower it's in, it's the bell - all the large clock tower bells are named. So when someone tells you they've seen Big Ben, they must have climbed up inside the Clock Tower of the Houses of Parliament to see it. I don't even know if that's allowed on a tour (and can't be bothered googling it).

That's my "educate the furriners" bit done for the day then!
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:32 AM   #26
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Big Ben isn't the clock, or the tower it's in, it's the bell - all the large clock tower bells are named. So when someone tells you they've seen Big Ben, they must have climbed up inside the Clock Tower of the Houses of Parliament to see it. I don't even know if that's allowed on a tour (and can't be bothered googling it).
The only way to see the clock is to arrange it through your Member of Parliament. People who are not resident in the United Kingdom are, unfortunately, unable to do so.
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Why do the math at all? Use 24Hr clocks and everything is easy.
When modern Analog clocks were first being designed it was found that designing the gearing system to chime 24 times (ala clock towers) would be far to complex which is how the 12 hr clock face got so popular. Of course that isn't the case I'm sure with clocks on computers etc. since they don't use physical gears, but I imagine even most computers use a 12 hr clock because as human beings we tend to be used to a 12 hr day even now. I mean til the advent of modern lighting most people got up and went to bed with the sun. While the modern world may run 24/7 human beings still haven't managed to catch up to that. lol.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:06 AM   #28
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but I imagine even most computers use a 12 hr clock because as human beings we tend to be used to a 12 hr day even now.
Most computers don't use a 12h clock; it really is almost exclusively a US phenomenon to use the 12h clock for everything. If you look at a computer in pretty much any other country, you'll see a 24h clock.
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When modern Analog clocks were first being designed it was found that designing the gearing system to chime 24 times (ala clock towers) would be far to complex which is how the 12 hr clock face got so popular. Of course that isn't the case I'm sure with clocks on computers etc. since they don't use physical gears, but I imagine even most computers use a 12 hr clock because as human beings we tend to be used to a 12 hr day even now. I mean til the advent of modern lighting most people got up and went to bed with the sun. While the modern world may run 24/7 human beings still haven't managed to catch up to that. lol.
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Most computers don't use a 12h clock; it really is almost exclusively a US phenomenon to use the 12h clock for everything. If you look at a computer in pretty much any other country, you'll see a 24h clock.
My computer is set to the 24 hr clock, simply because I prefer it. My Kindle is set to a 12 hour clock because that is all it is capable of, but then, I very seldom use my Kindle to find out what time it is, so it isn't really an issue for me. After all, when using a 12 hour time piece, even without an AM or PM indication, if you look outside you know whether or not it is 1 AM or 1 PM. It's only in written or verbal communication that you need to know if someone is meaning AM or PM - which is why using the 24 hour clock time designations makes everything simpler in the world of communications, especially when the communication is not exclusively with folks in the USA.

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Old 06-03-2012, 05:28 AM   #30
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Is there a way to make the Kindle time 24hour?
I changed my language from 'English US' to 'English UK', and the time is now displayed in 24 hour time. No maths, I just prefer to read 19:00 than 7:00pm
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