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Old 06-08-2010, 09:59 PM   #17146
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That reminds me of one of my favorite poems by Sharon Olds - 'Satan Says' unfortunately I can't find it on line....
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:54 PM   #17147
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Harlan Ellison's "Deathbird Stories" has an interesting take on the God/Satan relationship. I can't remember the title, but the entire book is excellent. It actually comes with a warning from the author! Emotional dynamite!
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:10 PM   #17148
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Well, if you insist, I could come over and rough you up a bit.
Do I have to pay for that?

BAH, vegas bores me already. Room is nice though.
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:13 PM   #17149
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Wow, H_T! Threats of physical violence from a psychiatrist! You must be doing something right!
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:05 AM   #17150
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Do I have to pay for that?

BAH, vegas bores me already. Room is nice though.
I was there last July for a training/conference. hated it
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:50 AM   #17151
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I've never been to Vegas. Or Atlantic City. I went to Lake Tahoe once. I thought it was an insomniac's private Hell.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:17 AM   #17152
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I was there last July for a training/conference. hated it
Doesnt help that I lived 2 hours from it for the last 20 years.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:30 AM   #17153
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:56 AM   #17154
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I am having a cup of coffee and playing in MR after spending all day attempting to comply with bluddy professional association requirements. I chased up one ex-employer and found that he was working around the corner. He had sold the business I worked for, so quick as a flash I prepared a stat dec and raced up the road on foot to meet him. He even took my details in case he had some work for me Things are looking up.
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:24 AM   #17155
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Let the festivities begin!

Foster's for everyone!
We'll use Bindi Irwin for a pinata!
Koalas on the barbie!
Whatever you do with kangaroos!
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:45 AM   #17156
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Today I:
  • looked at furniture (coffee table, side table, entertainment unit)
  • bought two more t-shirts (I tend to wear shirts until threadbare)
  • had a play with an iPad at Myers.

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  • really want an iPad

Homemade pizza for dinner.

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Old 06-09-2010, 03:46 AM   #17157
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I was taught that the Serpent imparted knowledge to the "innocent", not the "ignorant". Catholic school and the Baptists. I haven't kept up with any of it since I left the Church in the '70's.
Every once in a while I decide to read the Bible, and like an idiot I always start at the beginning, instead of just picking a story at random. So I can confirm that, because I have read that story several times

The knowledge that is imparted by the tree's fruit is the ability to distinguish good from evil. Before they ate it, Adam and Eve were naked, but that was all right because they didn't know it was a bad thing. Or didn't sin exist before they ate the fruit? Or were they living in sin but that was all right with god because they didn't know it? Like all Old Testament stories, it's rather confusing and intriguing. Certainly raises way more questions than it answers, IMO.

Also, an interesting aspect to the story is that God chases Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden because he is afraid that after the tree of knowledge, they will find the tree of life - and then they would be the equals of God. Obviously he can't let that happen, so off they go.

Oops, sorry, wrong thread!
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Your post reminded me of something from Catholic school ( the nightmares about nuns are your fault tonight! )
They always hit on the idea of shame. Adam and Eve were ashamed of their nakedness and hid from God's view. Now I never understood that back then, but later I felt it wasn't about evil, but self awareness. Being naked is okay, knowing it isn't. Innocence lost, not evil born. Cain and Abel is the birth of evil.

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Your post reminded me of something from Catholic school ( the nightmares about nuns are your fault tonight! )
They always hit on the idea of shame. Adam and Eve were ashamed of their nakedness and hid from God's view. Now I never understood that back then, but later I felt it wasn't about evil, but self awareness. Being naked is okay, knowing it isn't. Innocence lost, not evil born. Cain and Abel is the birth of evil.
My only experience with nuns was a piano teacher called (by me) Sister of no Mercy. She was mean to me But she did not teach me scripture, only piano.
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My only experience with nuns is seeing them in the street. I have never talked to one.
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