Unutterably Silly Every Day's a Holiday!

[montsnmags]

Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

You call sick in advance?

Yes, you can here, assuming that is for a medical reason (eg. you have a doctor's appointment or some such).

Sick leave accumulates here. When I left my last job I had more sick leave than I had long service leave accumulated (and with 19 years service, that was a fair whack). The difference is, when I left, my annual and long service leave accumulations got paid out. My sick leave didn't. Some see this as an "incentive" to use their sick leave. Thus, the "sickie" (it can just mean a "sick day", but it's often used with a nudge and a wink to mean a sick day taken when not sick).

Some days I worked through migraines. Sometimes I'd have the next day off, telling the boss "You owe me!", and, with a nudge and a wink, he was fine with it. Hell, with the days and hours I'd work, I could tell him on particularly bad days that, "I need a day off, or permission to have someone eradicated, paid for with company funds". I got the day off, no problem.

The Loved One had a massive heart attack early on (age: 34). He had to have months off work. I was always conscious of that (we'd worked together for a few years by then), and I wanted sick leave in reserve should something bad befall me. I lost that accumulation when I was given a DCM, but I always felt good having it there when I was employed.

Cheers,
Marc

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by montsnmags

... Sick leave accumulates here. When I left my last job I had more sick leave than I had long service leave accumulated (and with 19 years service, that was a fair whack). The difference is, when I left, my annual and long service leave accumulations got paid out. My sick leave didn't. Some see this as an "incentive" to use their sick leave. Thus, the "sickie" (it can just mean a "sick day", but it's often used with a nudge and a wink to mean a sick day taken when not sick).

Sick leave works the same way in Civil Service; which is why when folks get near retirement, they suddenly get sick for weeks at a time. You get paid for accrued annual leave, but not for sick leave.

Originally Posted by montsnmags

... The Loved One had a massive heart attack early on (age: 34). He had to have months off work. I was always conscious of that (we'd worked together for a few years by then), and I wanted sick leave in reserve should something bad befall me. I lost that accumulation when I was given a DCM, but I always felt good having it there when I was employed.

Cheers,
Marc

That's really young to be having cardiac problems, but it just goes to show how uncertain life can be. You just never know.

[GeoffC]

Sick leave accumulates? - ours was only an annual allowance.
'normal holidays' - could be carried forward, but there were limits, usually max of 10 days.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by GeoffC

Sick leave accumulates? - ours was only an annual allowance.
'normal holidays' - could be carried forward, but there were limits, usually max of 10 days.

That's the way it is at my current position, sick leave resets to zero annually and vacation has limited carry-over -- only a couple of days.

[yvanleterrible]

My wife is a medical lab technician; a social service employee. They are allowed two weeks sickness leave a year. If those days are not taken they are paid at the end of that year. It's a finite period not to be reported from year to year.
She uses a week of it in the dead of winter to "recharge her batteries". And that is additional to the 4 weeks holidays her 32 years of service entitle her to.

[montsnmags]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

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That's really young to be having cardiac problems, but it just goes to show how uncertain life can be. You just never know.

He, being even more foolishly work-conscientiousness than I, and though experiencing a whole lot of strong symptoms overnight that should have dissuaded him, went to work in the morning. He was found collapsed under his desk (ciggy in one hand, lighter in the other). The doctor later told him that, ironically, if he'd done the right thing and stayed home (chucked a sickie), he'd certainly be dead.

Subsequent life-review occurred. Our relationship (and our acknowledgement to ourselves, each other, and eventually anyone else, of our sexuality) was the result.

It's all a rich tapestry.

Cheers,
Marc

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

On a different note:

TODAY IS...

*Texas Loves The Children Day

woot !! let's send all the shums to texas !!! man, this is my FAVOURITE HOLIDAY EVAR !!!

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

You're talking about rich people or some with statute. The laboring types like me get nothing. And if we miss work more than a few days we can get fired.

You get opposites in any country. It all depends on which side of power you are.

here, if you get sick, you can stay home for up to three days after calling work to say you'll be out. if you need more than that, you get a note from a doctor who puts you on "sick leave" for a specific number of days. for the first few (i can't remember how many exactly) your salary is covered by your company ; if you're out sick for a long time, the social security takes over payment. there's no defined number of days per year you're allowed to be sick, and you don't lose or gain anything depending on whether or not you take or don't take them, however best not get caught if you are on doctor-prescribed (long term) sick-leave but not actually sick. of course, we also have 5 weeks of holidays here per year for everyone after their first year, and if your company is still on a 39-hour work week you can get "time credit" for the extra half-day per week which you can accumulate and take when you want (legal work week was reduced to 35 hours a few years ago, this is a ruse to make the transition less "traumatic" for employers), which makes an extra 2.5 days or so per month i believe.

Originally Posted by SneakySnake

You poor suckers. In Oz we get paid for being on holidays all the time

yes, but you also have all that scary wildlife !!

Originally Posted by montsnmags

He, being even more foolishly work-conscientiousness than I, and though experiencing a whole lot of strong symptoms overnight that should have dissuaded him, went to work in the morning. He was found collapsed under his desk (ciggy in one hand, lighter in the other). The doctor later told him that, ironically, if he'd done the right thing and stayed home (chucked a sickie), he'd certainly be dead.

Subsequent life-review occurred. Our relationship (and our acknowledgement to ourselves, each other, and eventually anyone else, of our sexuality) was the result.

It's all a rich tapestry.

Cheers,
Marc

i suppose that's a pretty solid silver lining, but yeesh, a heart attack is a high price to pay. i hope he takes good care of himself now...

[montsnmags]

I should have said "a result" rather than "the result". He lost a very small adult in weight, stopped smoking, stopped binge-drinking, and reprioritised aspects of his work life to reduce stress levels (though you wouldn't know that last bit lately...but that's a whole other story). Now he just has me to contend with.

Cheers,
Marc

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by montsnmags

I should have said "a result" rather than "the result". He lost a very small adult in weight, stopped smoking, stopped binge-drinking, and reprioritised aspects of his work life to reduce stress levels (though you wouldn't know that last bit lately...but that's a whole other story). Now he just has me to contend with.

Cheers,
Marc

glad to hear it (and i wish him luck with that last bit. ). definitely seems like the right reaction, in the circumstances.

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by montsnmags

He, being even more foolishly work-conscientiousness than I, and though experiencing a whole lot of strong symptoms overnight that should have dissuaded him, went to work in the morning. He was found collapsed under his desk (ciggy in one hand, lighter in the other). The doctor later told him that, ironically, if he'd done the right thing and stayed home (chucked a sickie), he'd certainly be dead.

Subsequent life-review occurred. Our relationship (and our acknowledgement to ourselves, each other, and eventually anyone else, of our sexuality) was the result.

It's all a rich tapestry.

Cheers,
Marc

Well, I'm glad to hear some positive things came out of it. So is he OK now?

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by montsnmags

Now he just has me to contend with.

Cheers,
Marc

Now why am I thinking this could be dangerous?

Joking aside, I'm sure you're as attentive a life partner as you are a friend!

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

here, if you get sick, you can stay home for up to three days after calling work to say you'll be out. if you need more than that, you get a note from a doctor who puts you on "sick leave" for a specific number of days. for the first few (i can't remember how many exactly) your salary is covered by your company ; if you're out sick for a long time, the social security takes over payment. there's no defined number of days per year you're allowed to be sick, and you don't lose or gain anything depending on whether or not you take or don't take them, however best not get caught if you are on doctor-prescribed (long term) sick-leave but not actually sick. of course, we also have 5 weeks of holidays here per year for everyone after their first year, and if your company is still on a 39-hour work week you can get "time credit" for the extra half-day per week which you can accumulate and take when you want (legal work week was reduced to 35 hours a few years ago, this is a ruse to make the transition less "traumatic" for employers), which makes an extra 2.5 days or so per month i believe.

How long do you have to work for a company before coverage become effective?

Here, depending on the ******* place you work for, it takes between 3 to 6 months before you get any coverage. And you get fired just before you get there and then they call you back a few months later to rehire you and then fire you back just before coverage takes effect.
I'm getting sick of it and there's no coverage fer that!

[yvanleterrible]

Sorry for that! I should mind my manners.

[Wetdogeared]

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

How long do you have to work for a company before coverage become effective?

Here, depending on the ******* place you work for, it takes between 3 to 6 months before you get any coverage. And you get fired just before you get there and then they call you back a few months later to rehire you and then fire you back just before coverage takes effect.
I'm getting sick of it and there's no coverage fer that!

The same is happening here. Companies hire you for a *probation* period, usually 3 months, in which time they don't provide any benefits. There is usually a promise of a wage increase after that probationary period also. They then fire the whole crew exactly 1 day before the 3 month probationary period is over, then a week later you see an ad in the paper for the same company and the same jobs. If there isn't already, there should be a law against this hiring/firing practice.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

The same is happening here. Companies hire you for a *probation* period, usually 3 months, in which time they don't provide any benefits. There is usually a promise of a wage increase after that probationary period also. They then fire the whole crew exactly 1 day before the 3 month probationary period is over, then a week later you see an ad in the paper for the same company and the same jobs. If there isn't already, there should be a law against this hiring/firing practice.

Agreed!

They are playing a Contract to Hire game in the technology industries -- basically just a ploy to get workers without having to provide benefits, etc. the way I see it.