What do you think of the name "liseuse?"

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can't go have a look at all the links. The article was deleted.

the links are in the thread, jon, which is still there. see my post just before this one, for the link.

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by Idoine

Now I'm perfectly aware that it can not be an English one, as the majority of English speakers are not able to pronounce it correctly.

While that seems reasonable, we can easily find counter examples. I have yet to find an English speaker able to correctly pronounce "ballet", or "mêlée", or "guerrilla", or "mosquito" yet those are perfectly valid English words (which English speakers pronounce as they see fit, and that's fine).

I'm not saying "liseuse" should be used in English, and I don't know if it will be as widely accepted as the above words, but there's nothing intrinsically worse in this word that would prevent its use, I think.

(Personally, I find the use of acronyms like IANAL, YMMV, AFAIK, and whatnot much more annoying, and harder for the non-English speaker, than the occasional foreign word, but that's a battle that should be fought elsewhere. )

Oh, by the way, here is a link to examples of foreign words recently introduced in the "official" French dictionary, if anyone finds it interesting: http://www.academie-francaise.fr/dic...etrangers.html

[Lemurion]

Personally, I use "ebook" and "ebook reader," at least for the most part. Sometimes I throw a hyphen in there when I feel like being hyphenated. I call my own device anything from "ebook reader," to Sony, to just Reader.

I wouldn't use the word "liseuse" in speech for the same reason kazbates doesn't. People around here (I think I'm probably within 50 miles of her) just wouldn't understand it.

Beyond that, I don't care what others call it, so long as I can call the device what I want to call it. (ie. "MINE!" )

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Would (in this modern age) we now be saying eBook 'em Dano?

That's my point!

Try saying this: "e-liseuse 'em, Dano!"

It just sounds all wrong and horrible! As if Batman was confused and slid down the wrong pole marked "Robin."

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by Krystian Galaj

I completely understand using the word "liseuse" in Lounge forum, among MobileRead regulars who know what they agreed for it to mean. However, I believe that it shouldn't be used in News and Commentary thread, without even a word of explanation what it's supposed to mean, as it's making the "news" unintelligible. At least until the word is used somewhere else that MobileRead.

Ummm... *which* MobileRead regulars??? I don't hesitate to point out that as an MR regular I *never* agreed to its meaning.

Derek

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by kazbates

I will preface the following comments with the background information that I have an 8 year old daughter.

We were watching Disney's Hannah Montana show, one of Ryleigh's favorites I'm sorry to say, and the main characters mentioned an ebook. They were not reading the ebook, they were listening to an audio book on an iPod. The problem with calling the device an *ebook* is that it is misleading and ultimately incorrect. I am not saying that the Hannah Montana characters should be used as anything even remotely considered as an intellectual resource, but it does point out the ambiguity of the word.

There is no ambiguity to the meaning of the word "ebook". There *IS* a tendency towards less-than-accurate thinking on Hanna Montana's show - and within her mind, if her various public statements can be taken as proof.

Derek

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by kazbates

Really?!?! I thought for sure there was one more + on there now!! Oh, well, I guess I need to pay more attention to what he's actually learning in college to see how far behind the times I actually am!

"C+++", AKA, D-!

Derek

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

If the agreed upon term is ebook reader, then why are e-reader and ereader still in use?

Ummm... Hate to point this out, but it *should* have occurred to MR participants by now. "Marketing".

Derek

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

I like my term better. I call it "ebookieuse," which is very catchy. It combines the "use" of "ebook" with the "I" of the intended. It's also French-sounding.

Or:
I created it because I think "ebookieuse" is an hilarious message for those who advocate - to the exclusive use of anything else - one word, one term, one thought.

Or:
It's my homage to "Hawaii-Five-O" -- "[You] book 'em, Dano." Wo Fat to the rescue.

Or:
I'm laughing at the intensity of seriousness here.

Take your choice...or add and subtract.

HAVE FUN, fellow ebookieusers!


Don

Nawwww... A better pun would be "diseuse".

Derek

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

yes i can, and i have previously. just look at all the links i gave in nate's wikipedia thread. i didn't just make this word up, you know. i learned it there myself.

A-Ha! The guilty party has revealed herself! 50 lashes with a cooked spaghetti noodle!

Derek

[Jadon]

Originally Posted by CleverClothe

So, what is "book" or "e-book"?

Not much of a surprise: e-libro.

[alecE]

Phew! I've only just caught up with this thread (been on holiday, in the Dordogne) and I'm a little astonished at the passions aroused. So there's a French word for ereader/e-reader etc. And it's even possible (shock horror!) that the word might make it's way into English, gasp! No relation to "matinee", "encore", "mileu", "sang froid", "comme il faut", "crepes", "sauce" then? Given that English has looted vast quantities of its vocabulary from other languages (verandah, pyjamas, kedgeree, banjo, chimpanzee, ketchup, algorithm, alembic, algebra, monsoon, muslin, sauna) what's the problem? the word exists. Use it if you like it, don't use it if you do not like it. Relish the fact that there's a rich vocabulary available. Me, I'll refer to my device as an e-reader in conversation, except, with the cognoscenti, I may refer to my liseuse. :-)

[brecklundin]

if you are dyslexic might the name e-uselic be better?

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

'Liseuse' is a foreign word which is sometimes used to describe something for which we do not have an agreed word yet in the English language. It therefore has some legitimacy as a word where 'bob' and 'ted' don't.

In french it has some (not overwhelming) legitimacy as it has supposedly seen limited use outside of this site, however in english the word has zero legitimacy and thus is no better than any other random name that somebody might choose to use.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Nearly 1000 hits in Google News and over 1.6 million Google hits for "e-reader".

Over 200 hits in Google News and over 1.95 million Google hits for "electronic book"

I'm not sure that Googling your preferred name and publishing the figures proves anything other than that there is not a commonly agreed term for these things yet.

Those figures do seem to indicate that there are a number of terms that are being widely used though and thus no need to borrow a word that the french haven't even fully adopted themselves.