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[bmilan]

Thank you all very much for your input! Of course I'm aware that mobi is dead and most clients stopped asking for it, but there are still those who insist on getting it... I now realize I should make two versions of more complicated e-books - one adjusted for Kindle :/
RbnJrg, thanks a lot for the file and the code! I'll try using it.

[Quoth]

It's possible to do one good version that works for epub and as that version, uploaded to Amazon.
Over 90% of the English Language ebooks sold world wide are by Amazon in Kindle formats. Mostly KFX and secondarily azw3/KF8. Amazon converts the epub to Kindle format. Almost no-one gets mobi format now from new ebooks, because there is no PC download and the Gen1 and Gen2 models (that can only do mobi version) have no WiFi. The Cell services needed are gone almost everywhere. Also by now the batteries are worn out.

So
You do need Amazon Kindle, but Amazon makes it from an epub! Kindle no longer means mobi, but KFX on newer Kindles and azw3/KF8 on the Kindle 3 to Paperwhite 1 (Gen 3, 4 & 5 models). A Voyage, Paperwhite 3 and Oasis1 are maybe all Gen7. Paperwhite 2 is Gen 6. The Kindle Basic is various models, maybe as early as gen 4.

Forget about mobi, but not about Kindle.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by bmilan

Thank you all very much for your input! Of course I'm aware that mobi is dead and most clients stopped asking for it, but there are still those who insist on getting it... I now realize I should make two versions of more complicated e-books - one adjusted for Kindle :/
RbnJrg, thanks a lot for the file and the code! I'll try using it.

You might want to start checking into @media and the 'fun' of media queries.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by DNSB

You might want to start checking into @media and the 'fun' of media queries.

Usually a sign that the formatting design is too ambitious and too complicated.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Usually a sign that the formatting design is too ambitious and too complicated.

Or it means what's being done really cannot be done with Mobi.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Or it means what's being done really cannot be done with Mobi.

We don't care about mobi since the spring 2025 when Download & Transfer ended, only KFX, azw3/KF8 and epub.

Actual mobi has now joined pdb (Palm OS), LRF (oldest Sonys) and LIT (MS) as essentially only a home conversion format for totally prehistoric ereaders. Only Kindle gen1 & gen 2 need it. Did any dedicated ereader use LIT or only an app like those on Palm PDAs for the two main pdb formats?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Quoth

We don't care about mobi since the spring 2025 when Download & Transfer ended, only KFX, azw3/KF8 and epub.

Actual mobi has now joined pdb (Palm OS), LRF (oldest Sonys) and LIT (MS) as essentially only a home conversion format for totally prehistoric ereaders. Only Kindle gen1 & gen 2 need it. Did any dedicated ereader use LIT or only an app like those on Palm PDAs for the two main pdb formats?

But for those that use a K1, K2, DX, or DXG, if they complained about the Mobi not being good enough, would Amazon listen?

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But for those that use a K1, K2, DX, or DXG, if they complained about the Mobi not being good enough, would Amazon listen?

mobi was obsolete when Amazon bought it (via buying Mobipocket) in /2015/ 2005, 2 years before the first Kindle.
Amazon did backport azw3/KF8 to many old models, but the K1, K2, DX, and DXG (All the gen1 & gen2) didn't have enough RAM. That was stupid on the DXG as it was released the same time as the K3, but they only bothered to update the screen.

Now with ending of Download & Transfer the K1, K2, DX, and DXG owners can only buy or borrow Amazon books via an app or a newer Kindle.

No Kindle should ever have used mobi/KF7 format. But Amazon didn't want to pay for Adobe encryption and it was years before they duplicated epub with their own encryption wrapper as azw3/KF8. Amazon is big on marketing and poor on software.

Amazon also had Topaz as their own reflowable scanned format. I think the K1 didn't do PDF and all the Kindles that did, until the Scribe, were too small for PDF. DX & DXG supposed to be especially for PDF, yet didn't crop margins, too slow and 9.7″ @ 150 dpi is too small. Again, Amazon uses proprietary DRM on PDFs, so they are encapuslated. The Scribe is crippled for PDF notes if offline and private. Stupid arrogance.

EDIT
Out of coffee error.

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by Quoth

mobi was obsolete when Amazon bought it (via buying Mobipocket) in 2015, 2 years before the first Kindle.

2005, I believe.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Jellby

2005, I believe.

Interesting, that's what this has: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ions_by_Amazon

I'd thought I read somewhere it was 2015 (2005) in response to release of Sony's eink that year. Sony did have a couple of LCD based ereaders in the 1990s:
Discman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Discman
Bookman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_M..._CD-ROM_Player

So even less excuse for Amazon in 2017 (2007)! The original kindles also only did L to R and essentially Latin-Roman alphabet (with some Greek and Scandinavian). Yet that was a solved problem on DOS. Unicode was common by 2008. UTF8 was released in 1998.

Open eBook (OEB) AKA the Open eBook Publication Structure (OEBPS) is essentially epub1 and was open sourced in 1999. It was used on an ereader in 1998.

Amazon Kindle in [2017 first release was thus over 20 years] (2007 and 10 years) out of date on language, alphabet and font support (totally USA English centric) and used an ebook format over /1/5 5 years obsolete and they'd had /TWELVE/ MANY YEARS, though Kindle development might only have started in /2015/ 2005.

Amazon are NOT a tech company. They are a modern version of Victorian mail order and 1960s Computer time rental. They buy in tech and use it poorly.

The Fire is simply an Android Tablet.
The Fire TV, is copied from the dreadful Android TV.

Note that Google bought in Android, and MTP was developed by MS to help DRM on the Zune (originally based on a Japanese MP3 player).

EDIT 2005 & 2007, not 2015 & 2017

[Jellby]

I'm confused, the first Kindle was in 2007, not in 2017.

I thought that the Mobipocked acquisition was much later, so I was going to write that 2015 was not 2 years before, but 8 years after (or that you had mixed 2017 with 2007). But then I checked and found out it was actually 2005, so then I assumed you had mixed 2015 with 2005 instead. Now it seems you actually meant 2015 and 2017? Or are you talking about something else?

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Jellby

I'm confused, the first Kindle was in 2007, not in 2017.

I thought that the Mobipocked acquisition was much later, so I was going to write that 2015 was not 2 years before, but 8 years after (or that you had mixed 2017 with 2007). But then I checked and found out it was actually 2005, so then I assumed you had mixed 2015 with 2015 instead. Now it seems you actually meant 2015 and 2017? Or are you talking about something else?

Out of coffee error today, Sorry.

It should be 2005 & 2007. The Sony eink was 2005 and of course the Paperwhite 3 was 2015.