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Old 09-12-2025, 07:39 AM   #76
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Thank you all very much for your input! Of course I'm aware that mobi is dead and most clients stopped asking for it, but there are still those who insist on getting it... I now realize I should make two versions of more complicated e-books - one adjusted for Kindle :/
RbnJrg, thanks a lot for the file and the code! I'll try using it.
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It's possible to do one good version that works for epub and as that version, uploaded to Amazon.
Over 90% of the English Language ebooks sold world wide are by Amazon in Kindle formats. Mostly KFX and secondarily azw3/KF8. Amazon converts the epub to Kindle format. Almost no-one gets mobi format now from new ebooks, because there is no PC download and the Gen1 and Gen2 models (that can only do mobi version) have no WiFi. The Cell services needed are gone almost everywhere. Also by now the batteries are worn out.

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You do need Amazon Kindle, but Amazon makes it from an epub! Kindle no longer means mobi, but KFX on newer Kindles and azw3/KF8 on the Kindle 3 to Paperwhite 1 (Gen 3, 4 & 5 models). A Voyage, Paperwhite 3 and Oasis1 are maybe all Gen7. Paperwhite 2 is Gen 6. The Kindle Basic is various models, maybe as early as gen 4.

Forget about mobi, but not about Kindle.
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Thank you all very much for your input! Of course I'm aware that mobi is dead and most clients stopped asking for it, but there are still those who insist on getting it... I now realize I should make two versions of more complicated e-books - one adjusted for Kindle :/
RbnJrg, thanks a lot for the file and the code! I'll try using it.
You might want to start checking into @media and the 'fun' of media queries.
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You might want to start checking into @media and the 'fun' of media queries.
Usually a sign that the formatting design is too ambitious and too complicated.
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Usually a sign that the formatting design is too ambitious and too complicated.
Or it means what's being done really cannot be done with Mobi.
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Or it means what's being done really cannot be done with Mobi.
We don't care about mobi since the spring 2025 when Download & Transfer ended, only KFX, azw3/KF8 and epub.

Actual mobi has now joined pdb (Palm OS), LRF (oldest Sonys) and LIT (MS) as essentially only a home conversion format for totally prehistoric ereaders. Only Kindle gen1 & gen 2 need it. Did any dedicated ereader use LIT or only an app like those on Palm PDAs for the two main pdb formats?
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We don't care about mobi since the spring 2025 when Download & Transfer ended, only KFX, azw3/KF8 and epub.

Actual mobi has now joined pdb (Palm OS), LRF (oldest Sonys) and LIT (MS) as essentially only a home conversion format for totally prehistoric ereaders. Only Kindle gen1 & gen 2 need it. Did any dedicated ereader use LIT or only an app like those on Palm PDAs for the two main pdb formats?
But for those that use a K1, K2, DX, or DXG, if they complained about the Mobi not being good enough, would Amazon listen?
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But for those that use a K1, K2, DX, or DXG, if they complained about the Mobi not being good enough, would Amazon listen?
mobi was obsolete when Amazon bought it (via buying Mobipocket) in 2015, 2 years before the first Kindle.
Amazon did backport azw3/KF8 to many old models, but the K1, K2, DX, and DXG (All the gen1 & gen2) didn't have enough RAM. That was stupid on the DXG as it was released the same time as the K3, but they only bothered to update the screen.

Now with ending of Download & Transfer the K1, K2, DX, and DXG owners can only buy or borrow Amazon books via an app or a newer Kindle.

No Kindle should ever have used mobi/KF7 format. But Amazon didn't want to pay for Adobe encryption and it was years before they duplicated epub with their own encryption wrapper as azw3/KF8. Amazon is big on marketing and poor on software.

Amazon also had Topaz as their own reflowable scanned format. I think the K1 didn't do PDF and all the Kindles that did, until the Scribe, were too small for PDF. DX & DXG supposed to be especially for PDF, yet didn't crop margins, too slow and 9.7″ @ 150 dpi is too small. Again, Amazon uses proprietary DRM on PDFs, so they are encapuslated. The Scribe is crippled for PDF notes if offline and private. Stupid arrogance.

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