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[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

And yet it's the main advantage of Kindle over Kobo for many, many people, as seen from the many, many posts here.

Yes, I know, but it's not representative of ebook users in general. It's a vocal minority.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Yes, I know, but it's not representative of ebook users in general. It's a vocal minority.

Maybe not ebook users in general (as most of them read on tablets and phones), but certainly not a small part of Kindle users. I wouldn't say it's the minority among those, going by the number of posts I've seen about it.

[Desertway]

Originally Posted by Quoth

How many devices to you really read on? I have apps on two phones in use (one for house TFA and one for outdoors), three tablets, three laptops, a workstation and about 10 ereaders (One used to get azw3 from Amazon). But I read almost all novels on one Kobo Sage. If I need to read the same ebook on a different device it's faster to search than use sync, which needs two connections via WiFi to someone else's server.

Amazon Sync and the parasitic STK, which doesn't work to send Kindle format ebooks (available from Smashwords and PD sites), nor books with DRM, seems a lot to put up with vs every other aspect of a Kindle ereader inferior to a Kobo.

I read primarily on my Oasis, but also on my phone when it's the only thing handy, on my iPad for graphs and images, and on my Fire Tablet at the gym because I don't care if it breaks. Sync is very handy. And maybe I misunderstood what you meant, but STK books do sync progress across devices.

[MDMullins]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Yes, I know, but it's not representative of ebook users in general. It's a vocal minority.

Right. But continually suggesting a device to readers who have tried and rejecting it isn't helping anyone. I read a lot — 230 books last year, each and everyone on a Kindle — so I'm versed in what Kindle can and can't do. I would love if Kobo had worked for me, but it's an inferior device.

[DNSB]

I read mostly on my Sage but I will read on another Kobo ereader and the Kobo app on my iOS devices or Android tablet. For the most part, I find that searching for a phrase from the last bit of text I read on my Sage is easier than remembering to sync my Sage to update the reading progress for Kobo purchased & synced ebooks before leaving the house.

Years back, I did play with a tool that allowed syncing progress for all books on your Kobo but it was never all that usable and if I wanted it to work outside my home, I had to set up a port forward to allow the connection which is a bit of a security hazard. The person responsible for the code disappeared from SourceForge when his real life job didn't leave him the spare time to work on it and so the project went to the great bitbucket in the sky.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by MDMullins

Right. But continually suggesting a device to readers who have tried and rejecting it isn't helping anyone. I read a lot — 230 books last year, each and everyone on a Kindle — so I'm versed in what Kindle can and can't do. I would love if Kobo had worked for me, but it's an inferior device.

In your opinion. Plenty of people have had Kindles and changed to Kobo. It's certainly not inferior if you only read on one device or don't wish to give ebooks to Amazon, and you can't sync Kindle only format ebooks not sold to you by Amazon.

Also the majority of people don't use eink at all for ebooks, they read on one app on one phone.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by MDMullins

Right. But continually suggesting a device to readers who have tried and rejecting it isn't helping anyone. I read a lot — 230 books last year, each and everyone on a Kindle — so I'm versed in what Kindle can and can't do. I would love if Kobo had worked for me, but it's an inferior device.

Please note that all my comments represent my opinion.

For me, Kobo ereaders are the superior device. The open nature so I don't need to jailbreak if I want to play with KOReader or Plato, the add-ons such as NickelMenu, the ability to patch the behaviour using KoboPatcher. Other things such as font selection, line spacing, margins. Every time I use a Kindle, I end up asking why does a Kindle insist that margins on an eInk device should be so wide? Attempting to emulate the appearance of a paperback book?

The ability to easily edit an ePub also makes a Kobo a superior choice. That Amazon does not eat their own dog food (try sending an Amazon format ebook via StK or to Amazon KDP) is yet another reason for not owning a Kindle.

As for reading a lot in a year? For the month of April, 2025, my reading stats say that I finished 121 books and from Jan. 01, 2025 to April 30, 2025, I finished 398 books. Admittedly most of these are fiction so light reads and not much need to stop and think about the concepts being presented. There were also 10 or so books read with a granddaughter on a Kobo Libra Colour which is great for kids picture books where the sins of a Kaleido 3 screen are not noticeable. OTOH, keeping her younger sister from taste testing the KLC was an ongoing issue.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by DNSB

I read mostly on my Sage but I will read on another Kobo ereader and the Kobo app on my iOS devices or Android tablet. For the most part, I find that searching for a phrase from the last bit of text I read on my Sage is easier than remembering to sync my Sage to update the reading progress for Kobo purchased & synced ebooks before leaving the house.

And the same applies to a Kindle. Also some Kindle users won't turn on WiFi, or didn't until Amazon ended DL & Transfer via USB. Now you have to turn on WiFi.

[MDMullins]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Please note that all my comments represent my opinion.

And I have no problem with those opinions, but all the things you suggested that a Kobo can do are a bug and not a feature for me. I don't want to spend time tweaking the device; I want to spend time reading, and Kindle does that almost magically, staying out of my way, not bothering me, not requiring me to think about anything but reading.

[MDMullins]

Originally Posted by Quoth

And the same applies to a Kindle. Also some Kindle users won't turn on WiFi, or didn't until Amazon ended DL & Transfer via USB. Now you have to turn on WiFi.

Again, my problem isn't that you like Kobo — my problem is that I asked a question about making something potentially work on a Kindle and you suggest I change devices. I wasn't asking for recommendations for a new device. I was asking a specific Kindle question.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by MDMullins

And I have no problem with those opinions, but all the things you suggested that a Kobo can do are a bug and not a feature for me. I don't want to spend time tweaking the device; I want to spend time reading, and Kindle does that almost magically, staying out of my way, not bothering me, not requiring me to think about anything but reading.

But that doesn't make Kobo devices objectively inferior. They may not suit you personally, but again, this doesn't make them inferior for everyone.

I'm one of those who moved from Kindle to Kobo, because I find Kindles to be inferior. For me personally, not necessarily for everyone.

[MDMullins]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Also the majority of people don't use eink at all for ebooks, they read on one app on one phone.

Do you have statistics to back this up? Links to a study?

[MDMullins]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

But that doesn't make Kobo devices objectively inferior. They may not suit you personally, but again, this doesn't make them inferior for everyone.

I'm one of those who moved from Kindle to Kobo, because I find Kindles to be inferior. For me personally, not necessarily for everyone.

And again: Nowhere in my original inquiry was I asking about Kobos. My question was specifically about Kindles and making something work on them. Thus I posted this in the Kindle forums.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by MDMullins

And again: Nowhere in my original inquiry was I asking about Kobos. My question was specifically about Kindles and making something work on them. Thus I posted this in the Kindle forums.

You didn't ask about Kobos, but you said they were inferior devices on a public forum. Given how many active members here are Kobo owners, what did you expect? You could have asked your question without slurs on other brands - it would have been enough to just say that you dislike Kobo devices.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by MDMullins

And I have no problem with those opinions, but all the things you suggested that a Kobo can do are a bug and not a feature for me. I don't want to spend time tweaking the device; I want to spend time reading, and Kindle does that almost magically, staying out of my way, not bothering me, not requiring me to think about anything but reading.

For me, I was happy for years reading on a bog standard Kobo. I added NickelMenu to allow things like ejecting and reconnecting without needing to pull the USB cable out. Since quite a few people were rhapsodizing about KOReader and Plato and installing them was pretty trivial, I added them.

I've also popped my Kobos open to make images of the internal storage as backups and to replace the internal storage with a larger card. For my sins, I've now ending up managing the image repository.

The only KoboPatch tweak I make use of is the one to have the font size in the two renderers close to the same. Once done, I don't need to think about it when switching between the two renderers.

I do edit most of the epubs I read for consistent font sizes, indented paragraphs, removing dropcaps, removing those stupid chapter headers that chew up 75% of a page, setting the default margin to 0, etc. Using my saved searches in Sigil keeps the time to do this to most books in the 5-10 minute range.

Bit of background, I spent years as an electronic tech and built several computers from magazines such as Radio-Electronics and Popular Electronics. I then moved into computers as a career and spend more years that I can to think about working with computers and then networks and data centers. I spend my last years as a network/server/storage/virtualization administrator with a sideline in computer forensics.