Amazon and DRM changes

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

And yet the date is the WHOLE POINT of the change, no? It has been stated repeatedly by different posters that it's the publication date that's the key. No one is satying anything is diffrent for books published BEFORE that date, as I understand it

No. The point here is whether it's possible to deDRM books imported from Kindles with the latest update.

The date was the point with Kindle for PC, not with eink Kindles.

[texasnightowl]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

And yet the date is the WHOLE POINT of the change, no? It has been stated repeatedly by different posters that it's the publication date that's the key. No one is satying anything is diffrent for books published BEFORE that date, as I understand it

Yes. And no.

It is always possible that with a firmware update, the ability to dedrm ANY books, older or newer can be changed.

So now I know that 5.18.2 did not change the ability for older books to be processed.

The publication date definitely is the whole point when it comes to the K4PC app. We don't yet know for sure if the date matters when it comes to the 5.18.2 firmware.

So...if you know of a FREE and new book, I'll be happy to try that too.

[odamizu]

Originally Posted by texasnightowl

OK...done.

Manually download 5.18.2 for my 11th generation Paperwhite aka PW5.

After it was updated, I sent a book to it over wifi. (This is not a newly published book, just a random book already in my kindle content.)

After the download was complete, I connected the PW5 back to my PC and in Calibre, used the device button and did the right click > add to library thing.

It worked.

Switched back to library and it was in kfx format and Calibre was able to open it.

Actually did a total of 9 books and all were added just fine and show in kfx format.

Again, none of these are *new* as in since April 23rd but if anyone knows of a new and free book that I should try, I am willing to do so. But essentially, everything is working for me on 5.18.2 the same as it did on 5.18.1...

AWESOME. I will update the other thread accordingly.

[lkmiller]

The point with Kindle for PC was that we already knew that books from version 2.4.1 and later would not work with DeDRM regardless of publication date. So you're currently out-of-luck for the Kindle for PC method with books that cannot be downloaded to 2.4.0.

We did not know whether a newer version of Kindle firmware would also have newer KFX DRM that DeDRM cannot handle on all books. Now we know that at least previously published books are fine. I would guess that newly published books would be fine too, but it will be nice to get that confirmed.

[JSWolf]

Does anyone know who to stop a non-jailbroken Kindle from being able to download the new firmware for new enough Kindles? If that means blocked the server address that would do too as long as that also allows downloading eBooks.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Does anyone know who to stop a non-jailbroken Kindle from being able to download the new firmware for new enough Kindles? If that means blocked the server address that would do too as long as that also allows downloading eBooks.

Fill up storage so there isn't enough room for the firmware download has been suggested in the past, as I recall.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

Fill up storage so there isn't enough room for the firmware download has been suggested in the past, as I recall.

Is there another way such as blocking the server that holds the firmware?

[BionicGecko]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Is there another way such as blocking the server that holds the firmware?

Currently there doesn't seem to be a safe way to achieve this; you can check this thread for more details.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by BionicGecko

Currently there doesn't seem to be a safe way to achieve this; you can check this thread for more details.

Thanks. That may help.

[texasnightowl]

fwiw, I have now found 2 free books that won't download to k4pc 2.4.0 (require updated version) so I am going to send those to my newly updated PW5 at 5.18.2 to confirm they will still work. One of the books says the publication date is April 22nd, not the 23rd, and the other is the 25th.

[texasnightowl]

OK...you can see from the attached photos that I had 2 books that would not download to 2.4.0 and wanted me to update versions.

Sent them to my PW5 which I manually updated last night to the new firmware 5.18.2.

Imported both books to Calibre. No problems. Imported correctly as KFX and not kfx-zip, so drm removed. Also converted them to epub, no issues.

So, in short, firmware 5.18.2 is working fine for me. No changes compared to 5.18.1 in terms of importing to calibre/dedrm.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by texasnightowl

So, in short, firmware 5.18.2 is working fine for me. No changes compared to 5.18.1 in terms of importing to calibre/dedrm.

Matches up with what my acquaintance with the ColorSoft said after they manually updated but first hand from you instead of second hand.

[Uncle Robin]

So, it's fair to say that this is bad news for anyone who doesn't own a Kindle eink device and wants to transfer and DeDRM upcoming releases?

[DNSB]

The K4A method still works though for how much longer is an interesting question.

[texasnightowl]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

So, it's fair to say that this is bad news for anyone who doesn't own a Kindle eink device and wants to transfer and DeDRM upcoming releases?

Well, it definitely isn't good news.

I mean...maybe someone will crack a newer K4PC...but that is an if, not a when.

And even though people who own an e-ink kindle can dedrm for now, there is no guarantee how long that ability lasts too. I mean, technically they could force a firmware update even for really old models so if you connect to wifi to download books it updates first and then the ability could be gone.