looking at a new kindle paper white need advice

[JSWolf]

I do like the PW5. But I do not like the PW6. The reason I don't like the PW6 is due to no D&T and MTP.

Also, the PW5 has gotten faster page turns with 5.17.1 and 6.8" vs 7" makes no noticeable difference.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

Since you don't believe Issybird, what will it take to convince you.

Maybe this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLAdg8Prg0U

Start around 2:55.

I only said page turns were faster on the PW5 and the video does say page turns are pretty much the same. Yes, other things are faster due to the faster processor, but page turns are no longer faster.

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by sian

im looking into buying a kindle paperwhite as i brorrowed my partners old version.

i was going buy the kindle colorsoft but i have been put off from getting that due to the problems.

ive now decided its either the paper white signature edition ( 11th gen)
or the paperwhite . both have 6.8inch scteens and usb c.


the only difference i can see is one has a lip edge all why round and other doesnt

i know the paperwhite signature edition ( 11 gen) can use the libby. and it comes in denim blue and other colours . also both have usb c which is important as i want to not carry a bag of cables around

and the paperwhite signature (11th gen) has 32gb the paperwhite has 16gb

i dont want ads . just not sure which to get.

please advise

btw sorry for the spelling mistakes and extra spaces

If the differences that have been pointed out between the standard Paperwhite and the SE are not important to you, I would choose the cheaper option. And the 2024 generation is also very good, especially in contrast. Personally I prefer the colour tone of the PW5 screen (whiter) to the PW6 (more yellow), but the contrast of the fonts on the PW6 is better. And the screen is a bit bigger (which is indifferent to me). The controversy over other issues is inconsequential for most Kindle users. I use my PW5 exactly the same as my PW6 (although I certainly never use a USB cable to transfer my books because I find it particularly cumbersome). Both seem to me to be excellent devices. Whichever you choose, you're going to get it right.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cellaris

If the differences that have been pointed out between the standard Paperwhite and the SE are not important to you, I would choose the cheaper option. And the 2024 generation is also very good, especially in contrast. Personally I prefer the colour tone of the PW5 screen (whiter) to the PW6 (more yellow), but the contrast of the fonts on the PW6 is better. And the screen is a bit bigger (which is indifferent to me). The controversy over other issues is inconsequential for most Kindle users. I use my PW5 exactly the same as my PW6 (although I certainly never use a USB cable to transfer my books because I find it particularly cumbersome). Both seem to me to be excellent devices. Whichever you choose, you're going to get it right.

As I said before, the difference in size to 6.8" and 7" screen is negotiable. Unless the two were side-by-side, you would not notice the difference. My previous Kobo was 6.8" and now it's 7".

The issues raised here could be consequential for the OP. We won't know this until the OP responds.

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Amazon is trying to keep you in their walled garden

As I have already stated in other threads on this forum, I do not feel like I am in a walled garden when I use my Kindle e-readers (whether it is a PW5 or a PW6). I have the same books as on my other e-readers from other brands. And the vast majority of those books are purchased outside of Amazon.

But if I had to choose between being inside the wall or outside, I'd choose to be inside. Simply because it gives me more options. If being outside the wall gave me something special I would consider it, but I can't find a benefit that I can't have by being inside.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by issybird

...And most of them have viable alternatives, as well. Can't sideload? Send to Kindle is phenomenal and I only wish Kobo had it.

While STK may be a viable or even preferable alternative for you, I certainly wouldn't want to use it, at all, ever (and yes, I've used it in the past, so I know what it's like). It's not an alternative for me personally. And I know I'm not the only one here with that opinion. So it's not true there is a viable alternative for everyone who wants to sideload. Until Amazon fixes the vanishing books issue, there IS an issue with sideloading and yes, it should be mentioned unless the OP specifically says they're never going to sideload via USB.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by cellaris

As I have already stated in other threads on this forum, I do not feel like I am in a walled garden when I use my Kindle e-readers (whether it is a PW5 or a PW6). I have the same books as on my other e-readers from other brands. And the vast majority of those books are purchased outside of Amazon.

But if I had to choose between being inside the wall or outside, I'd choose to be inside. Simply because it gives me more options. If being outside the wall gave me something special I would consider it, but I can't find a benefit that I can't have by being inside.

For me, being inside a walled garden means I cannot liberate my ebooks, to make personal backups, to change the formatting, to read them on any device/app I want. Those are major disadvantages for me, which outweigh any conceivable advantages by lightyears.

YMMV. I'm well aware many or even most users don't care about DRM removal, personal backups, using Calibre and so on.

[Hollow Man]

This thread has gone off the rails since the original poster hasn't replied!

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The issues raised here could be consequential for the OP. We won't know this until the OP responds.

I am very happy for individual users to point out personal drawbacks they may encounter in any e-reader, even if they have not been explicitly raised by the author of the publication. The more information the better.

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

For me, being inside a walled garden means I cannot liberate my ebooks, to make personal backups, to change the formatting, to read them on any device/app I want. Those are major disadvantages for me, which outweigh any conceivable advantages by lightyears.

Can't I do that if I have a Kindle e-reader? Exactly the same as with a Kobo or PocketBook e-reader. There is no difference in that respect.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by sian

for those wondering i no the current paperwhite signature edition doesn’t come with blue back. but the video i watch was say it can be backup by calibra and has 32gb .
i like to back up my books incase there problems with my kindle

Do you use the download & transfer option to back up your books? If so, 2024 Paperwhites don't have it, so you'll need to keep your Oasis registered to your account. If you're planning on selling or trading in the Oasis, be aware you won't be able to use Download & Transfer with 2024 Paperwhites.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by cellaris

Can't I do that if I have a Kindle e-reader? Exactly the same as with a Kobo or PocketBook e-reader. There is no difference in that respect.

Of course. Merely using a Kindle device doesn't mean being inside a walled garden. Generally it means not being able to use your purchased content outside the garden. If you don't buy from Amazon, you're not in their garden.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Hollow Man

This thread has gone off the rails since the original poster hasn't replied!

The OP has recently edited their original post.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

While STK may be a viable or even preferable alternative for you, I certainly wouldn't want to use it, at all, ever (and yes, I've used it in the past, so I know what it's like). It's not an alternative for me personally. And I know I'm not the only one here with that opinion. So it's not true there is a viable alternative for everyone who wants to sideload.

One makes one's choices from the available and viable options.

Until Amazon fixes the vanishing books issue, there IS an issue with sideloading and yes, it should be mentioned unless the OP specifically says they're never going to sideload via USB.

This is a "don't put beans up your nose" issue. Sideloading via USB and keeping a Kindle offline I suspect is not mainstream. One cannot possibly come up with every possible issue to warn off potential purchasers, nor should one. It's up to the purchaser to identify their parameters. I see what seems to me to be a lot of FUD in these threads when a hapless poster just wants some reassurance or a nudge in the right direction. Something that's really easy-peasy becomes fraught and it's so unnecessary and counterproductive.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by Hollow Man

This thread has gone off the rails since the original poster hasn't replied!

I'd be running screaming into the night myself!