[Solved] Doubt about shortcut definition

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 03:57 AM

Hi,

I have a doubt about a shortcut definition, that I don't know if it's a bug or not. I've got a Spanish keyboard, where quotes are over the 2, so, if I define as shortcut: Ctrl + Shift + 2, the result should be Ctrl + ". The resulting shortcut, however, is Ctrl + ^ (International keyboard). Is it right? It wouldn't be a problem if ^ wouldn't require a space to appear in the Spanish keyboard, so I cannot use the shortcut.

I've chosen another shortcut, but I would like to know if this is right.

kovidgoyal · 01-10-2021, 04:51 AM

there's no way to define shortcuts independently of shift, since different keyboards have different shifted keys. You can only use the keyboard preferences in calibre to press the actual keys ont he your keyboard and see what the shortcut comes out as.

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

there's no way to define shortcuts independently of shift, since different keyboards have different shifted keys. You can only use the keyboard preferences in calibre to press the actual keys ont he your keyboard and see what the shortcut comes out as.

That's what I do. I press Ctrl+Shift+2(Ctrl + ") and calibre stores Ctrl + ^.

kovidgoyal · 01-10-2021, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

That's what I do. I press Ctrl+Shift+2(Ctrl + ") and calibre stores Ctrl + ^.

and it doesnt work subsequently?? in what context?

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 06:08 AM

No, it doesn't work. When I press again Ctrl + Shift + 2 to execute the shorcut, it's not recognized. It's like it was analyzing the input according to the current keyboard definition but storing it with another on.

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 08:35 AM

Sorry, I think the problem is due to the resulting shortcut Ctrl+". As I've seen that the shortcuts are saved as plain text between ", I don't think calibre likes a lot "Ctrl+"".

kovidgoyal · 01-10-2021, 08:38 AM

What context is this in? The main calibre program, the viewer, somewhere else?

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

What context is this in? The main calibre program, the viewer, somewhere else?

The main calibre program.

kovidgoyal · 01-10-2021, 09:01 AM

I tried pressing ctrl+shift+' which gave me the shortcut ctrl+". This worked fine, and was correctly save in main.json as

"ctrl+\""

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 01:25 PM

Then, I don't know which the problem is, because Ctrl + Shift + 2 doesn't work for me in the library when I'm adding it to a plugin action.

BetterRed · 01-10-2021, 04:16 PM

@TdeM - did you try using the same shortcut sequence (Ctrl+Shift+2) in another program's shortcuts.

I had a problem with Shift+D in calibre, but then I discovered I had also had problem with it in other programs. So instead of using Shift+D to open DOCX files I use Shift+W.

Interestingly the issue went away of its own accord, but I don't know exactly when. My guess is that a 3rd party start-up applet was grabbing Shift+D, and the blunder was rectified in a subsequent update.

BR

ownedbycats · 01-10-2021, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Interestingly the issue went away of its own accord, but I don't know exactly when. My guess is that a 3rd party start-up applet was grabbing Shift+D, and the blunder was rectified in a subsequent update.

There used to be a program (Hotkey Explorer) that could activate all possible keyboard combos, intercept the results, and then tell you what program was stealing a hotkey. It doesn't work on Windows 10 though. Or rather, the interception part doesn't work, leaving me in a similar situation to the OP of this post.

Terisa de morgan · 01-10-2021, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@TdeM - did you try using the same shortcut sequence (Ctrl+Shift+2) in another program's shortcuts.

I've edited manually main.json inside shortcuts (according to the previous Kovid's comment) and it works, so I think it's some problem when it's written. Not the cleanest way to send away the issue but it works for me

BetterRed · 01-10-2021, 05:00 PM

Then I'll marked the thread as solved

BR

Terisa de morgan · 01-11-2021, 01:21 AM

Ok, thank you.

01-10-2021, 03:57 AM	#1
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	[Solved] Doubt about shortcut definition Hi, I have a doubt about a shortcut definition, that I don't know if it's a bug or not. I've got a Spanish keyboard, where quotes are over the 2, so, if I define as shortcut: Ctrl + Shift + 2, the result should be Ctrl + ". The resulting shortcut, however, is Ctrl + ^ (International keyboard). Is it right? It wouldn't be a problem if ^ wouldn't require a space to appear in the Spanish keyboard, so I cannot use the shortcut. I've chosen another shortcut, but I would like to know if this is right.

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01-10-2021, 04:51 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,364 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	there's no way to define shortcuts independently of shift, since different keyboards have different shifted keys. You can only use the keyboard preferences in calibre to press the actual keys ont he your keyboard and see what the shortcut comes out as.

01-10-2021, 06:08 AM	#5
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	No, it doesn't work. When I press again Ctrl + Shift + 2 to execute the shorcut, it's not recognized. It's like it was analyzing the input according to the current keyboard definition but storing it with another on.

01-10-2021, 08:35 AM	#6
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Sorry, I think the problem is due to the resulting shortcut Ctrl+". As I've seen that the shortcuts are saved as plain text between ", I don't think calibre likes a lot "Ctrl+"".

01-10-2021, 08:38 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,364 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	What context is this in? The main calibre program, the viewer, somewhere else?

01-10-2021, 09:01 AM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,364 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I tried pressing ctrl+shift+' which gave me the shortcut ctrl+". This worked fine, and was correctly save in main.json as "ctrl+\""

01-10-2021, 01:25 PM	#10
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Then, I don't know which the problem is, because Ctrl + Shift + 2 doesn't work for me in the library when I'm adding it to a plugin action.

01-10-2021, 04:16 PM	#11
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,733 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@TdeM - did you try using the same shortcut sequence (Ctrl+Shift+2) in another program's shortcuts. I had a problem with Shift+D in calibre, but then I discovered I had also had problem with it in other programs. So instead of using Shift+D to open DOCX files I use Shift+W. Interestingly the issue went away of its own accord, but I don't know exactly when. My guess is that a 3rd party start-up applet was grabbing Shift+D, and the blunder was rectified in a subsequent update. BR

01-10-2021, 05:00 PM	#14
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,733 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Then I'll marked the thread as solved BR

01-11-2021, 01:21 AM	#15
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Ok, thank you.