One-Click Install Packages for KOReader & Plato - Page 30

NiLuJe · 12-30-2020, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by osama1234

2) Does my Kobo need a firmware that's recent? I have 1.9.12 (10/16/14)

Yup. 2.9.0 specifically for KFMon, and 4.6 for NickelMenu. But I'd also recommended something north of ~4.12 for other reasons, so, TL;DR: update it to as current as you can ;p

JSWolf · 12-30-2020, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by osama1234

Hello,

I am having issues installing this on my purchased Used Kobo Wifi. When the kobo restarts after I have loaded the one step installer, it just looks like normal. The only things is it will have two new files (kfmon.png, koreader.png)

1) Does the .kobo directory need to be completely overwritten in the Kobo from the .kobo directory in the installer?
2) Does my Kobo need a firmware that's recent? I have 1.9.12 (10/16/14)
3) In Kobo's settings, I have "reset to factory defaults" before doing this. Is there a chance i have something like KSM already installed that's causing a incompatibility.

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Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Yup. 2.9.0 specifically for KFMon, and 4.6 for NickelMenu. But I'd also recommended something north of ~4.12 for other reasons, so, TL;DR: update it to as current as you can ;p

The Kobo WiFi has had support stopped for it. It's one of the two original models that do not get the current firmware.

@osama1234 if you want to run KOReader, you will need to buy a more recent Kobo that still has support for the current firmware. You bought one of the two Kobo models that's no longer supported.

NiLuJe · 12-30-2020, 09:52 AM

Oh, right, I mistakenly assumed it was a Touch (trilogy), my bad.

So, err, yeah, no, that'd be a hard nope on the original ye olde' Kobo WiFi: even if you somehow got KFMon to run (and I'm not sure it will), it's not going to help you much, as neither KOReader nor Plato support such an old device.

(The only old non-touch devices KOReader support start at the Kindle 2. And you really don't want to be using KOReader on a non-touch device anyway ^^).

DNSB · 12-30-2020, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osama1234

Hello,

I am having issues installing this on my purchased Used Kobo Wifi. When the kobo restarts after I have loaded the one step installer, it just looks like normal. The only things is it will have two new files (kfmon.png, koreader.png)

1) Does the .kobo directory need to be completely overwritten in the Kobo from the .kobo directory in the installer?
2) Does my Kobo need a firmware that's recent? I have 1.9.12 (10/16/14)
3) In Kobo's settings, I have "reset to factory defaults" before doing this. Is there a chance i have something like KSM already installed that's causing a incompatibility.

The Kobo WiFi is far too old for any of the components of the package to work. As a minimum, you need a Kobo with a touch screen not a D-pad.

osama1234 · 12-30-2020, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

The Kobo WiFi is far too old for any of the components of the package to work. As a minimum, you need a Kobo with a touch screen not a D-pad.

Thanks for clueing me into that. Well I bought it with reading PDFs in mind. At least 2020's almost over.

PeterT · 12-30-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by osama1234

Thanks for clueing me into that. Well I bought it with reading PDFs in mind. At least 2020's almost over.

Frankly I'm not sure the experience of reading PDFs on any Kobo e-Ink based reader would be that satisfactory.

NiLuJe · 12-30-2020, 05:17 PM

Yeah, for my $0.02, the bare minimum for that would require jumping straight to the high end (and that's currently a Forma). Maaaaaaybe a Libra. But, really, a Forma ;p.

Elektron · 12-30-2020, 06:41 PM

For my $0.01, don't get an Aura H2O2 if you want to read PDFs. I agree with @NiLuJe on that, a Forma would be the best.

Frenzie · 12-31-2020, 08:40 AM

I'd buy a Libra or a Forma in 2020 (or 2021), but there's no need to act like the H2O(2) is bad for reading PDFs. This is a KOReader/Plato topic after all.

JSWolf · 12-31-2020, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by osama1234

Thanks for clueing me into that. Well I bought it with reading PDFs in mind. At least 2020's almost over.

The reading experience with PDF on any 6" eInk screen will be terrible. You would need to get at least a Kobo Forma with an 8" screen.

JSWolf · 12-31-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frenzie

I'd buy a Libra or a Forma in 2020 (or 2021), but there's no need to act like the H2O(2) is bad for reading PDFs. This is a KOReader/Plato topic after all.

But it is. I have an H2O.

Elektron · 12-31-2020, 10:34 AM

The h2o2 would be best for reading ePubs IMO. PDFs are hard to read on them as they take a long time to turn the page. That's why I usually convert them to ePubs for it.

JSWolf · 12-31-2020, 10:37 AM

If I was buying a Kobo now, I'd buy a Libra as I don't read PDF on eInk. If I was trying to read PDF, the Forma would be my choice.

Frenzie · 12-31-2020, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

But it is. I have an H2O.

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Originally Posted by Elektron

The h2o2 would be best for reading ePubs IMO. PDFs are hard to read on them as they take a long time to turn the page. That's why I usually convert them to ePubs for it.

The PDF (and for that matter EPUB) experience in not-KOReader and not-Plato is just not terribly relevant in this topic. Making the PDF/DjVU/CBZ experience significantly more pleasant is something of a strong suit for a program that was named Kindlepdfviewer when it first gazed upon this world.

Assuming we're talking about a regular PDF, for example this one, you'll have a blast in KOReader and Plato. In Nickel, not so much, but it'd still be mostly usable if frustrating and slow. But while this is the most typical scenario, while it's the exact scenario for which I have an H2O, you could say it's also the ideal scenario.

An oddly shaped landscape paper like this one? Perfectly fine in landscape. A multi-column paper like this one? No problem at all. I've attached a screenshot of what it might look like on an old Kobo Touch just to make a point. You'll have specify that the document contains two columns and slightly tweak the overlap, but it'll be quickly done and it'll be good for the entire document. I've also attached a picture of reflow active on the same document. (NB You don't need KOReader for reflow except to do it on the device itself; you can use https://www.willus.com/k2pdfopt/ on any PC with more easily tweaked results. Given that the OCR is estimated at 92 % accurate on my document above, I wouldn't recommend converting it to EPUB.)

Finally, I've attached a video of Plato vs Nickel. Only pictured is the difference in speed, since clearly it doesn't take very long to turn the page in Plato (or KOReader). The assisted zoom/cropping modes are far more significant to the reading experience than page turning speed, but it doesn't hurt and it was explicitly mentioned as an objection.

Look, it's 2020. You should buy a Libra or a Forma. That's not under discussion. With its hardware buttons and minutely larger screen, the Libra's just more pleasant to use than the H2O(e2v2). But with regard to the PDF experience, that's neither here nor there.

On the Forma, you might be able to Just Read™ that dual-column PDF without any fuss, which is obviously preferable no matter how convenient the workarounds. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's the most convenient device to hold or to take along on a train ride. Both devices are fine choices for reading PDFs, provided you install KOReader or Plato. Which is what this topic is for.

baskerville · 01-01-2021, 04:55 AM

Plato manages a certain number of hidden files and directories inside a library, in particular .trash and .thumbnail-previews. The ExcludeSyncFolders pattern that ships with this package might lead Nickel to import files in those directories, since the path of a library is not necessarily the root of the underlying partition and the current pattern only ignores hidden directories of depth one.

Are you sure that .kobo needs to be whilelisted in order for Dropbox to function properly? I couldn't check that myself unfortunately.

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12-30-2020, 09:52 AM	#438
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Oh, right, I mistakenly assumed it was a Touch (trilogy), my bad. So, err, yeah, no, that'd be a hard nope on the original ye olde' Kobo WiFi: even if you somehow got KFMon to run (and I'm not sure it will), it's not going to help you much, as neither KOReader nor Plato support such an old device. (The only old non-touch devices KOReader support start at the Kindle 2. And you really don't want to be using KOReader on a non-touch device anyway ^^).

12-30-2020, 05:17 PM	#442
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Yeah, for my $0.02, the bare minimum for that would require jumping straight to the high end (and that's currently a Forma). Maaaaaaybe a Libra. But, really, a Forma ;p.

12-30-2020, 06:41 PM	#443
Elektron Banned Posts: 2,296 Karma: 5300240 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Edmonton, AB Device: Kobo Aura H2O Edition 2 (mark 7), Kobo Mini	For my $0.01, don't get an Aura H2O2 if you want to read PDFs. I agree with @NiLuJe on that, a Forma would be the best.

12-31-2020, 08:40 AM	#444
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,751 Karma: 730681 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	I'd buy a Libra or a Forma in 2020 (or 2021), but there's no need to act like the H2O(2) is bad for reading PDFs. This is a KOReader/Plato topic after all.

12-31-2020, 10:34 AM	#447
Elektron Banned Posts: 2,296 Karma: 5300240 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Edmonton, AB Device: Kobo Aura H2O Edition 2 (mark 7), Kobo Mini	The h2o2 would be best for reading ePubs IMO. PDFs are hard to read on them as they take a long time to turn the page. That's why I usually convert them to ePubs for it.

12-31-2020, 10:37 AM	#448
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,757 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If I was buying a Kobo now, I'd buy a Libra as I don't read PDF on eInk. If I was trying to read PDF, the Forma would be my choice.

01-01-2021, 04:55 AM	#450
baskerville Evangelist Posts: 446 Karma: 305160 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Aura ONE	Plato manages a certain number of hidden files and directories inside a library, in particular .trash and .thumbnail-previews. The ExcludeSyncFolders pattern that ships with this package might lead Nickel to import files in those directories, since the path of a library is not necessarily the root of the underlying partition and the current pattern only ignores hidden directories of depth one. Are you sure that .kobo needs to be whilelisted in order for Dropbox to function properly? I couldn't check that myself unfortunately.