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Old 04-06-2020, 02:38 PM   #106
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Price depends on where you live. The Nook may be pretty cheap in the US, but it's difficult to get elsewhere and much pricier with the shipping cost added.
That’s fine. Of course people have to look at prices in their own market. It doesn’t obviate my argument that you can’t condemn a device for its software when said software is adequate to most needs, without looking at price, hardware, and ancillary pros and cons. Value is the sum of a lot of considerations. You shouldn’t just say, “The software’s poor” without evaluating a device as a whole.
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That’s fine. Of course people have to look at prices in their own market. It doesn’t obviate my argument that you can’t condemn a device for its software when said software is adequate to most needs, without looking at price, hardware, and ancillary pros and cons. Value is the sum of a lot of considerations. You shouldn’t just say, “The software’s poor” without evaluating a device as a whole.
If you had two similar devices (hardware wise) and the prices were similar enough, you would look at the software for both before deciding which to buy.
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You shouldn’t just say, “The software’s poor” without evaluating a device as a whole.
The sum of the parts does not negate the parts themselves.

If the software itself is lacking in comparison with other software, it is fair, just and proper to say so.

Mind you, I struggled with the decision of buying a Kindle precisely for it's software features (or lack thereof) for library management. And the reading experience on a Kindle is not better than (say) Kobo, Nook or Boyue, all of which I've owned and used; in fact, from my experience, Kindle is slightly better than Nook merely for reading, and below par when compared with Kobo or Boyue.

And no, I don't live in the U.S.A. and I daresay I can readily explain the challenges of buying and using an overseas support-base e-reader; as all of my e-readers have been and will be, thank you very much.

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Old 04-06-2020, 02:57 PM   #109
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The sum of the parts does not negate the parts themselves.

If the software itself is lacking in comparison with other software, it is fair, just and proper to say so.
Well, yeah, to both. When did I ever say software wasn’t a consideration? Just as different prices in different markets alter comparisons. Of course.

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Well, yeah, to both. When did I ever say software wasn’t a consideration? Just as different prices in different markets alter comparisons. Of course.

Sheesh!
When I bought my H2O, I did so for two reasons. I wanted the larger Carta screen and I liked the features of the Kobo software. Plus when I bought it, I bought from Chapters so I paid less for it due to the exchange rate.
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Other then the removal of the partitioning, what in the firmware for the current nook is better/new?
It's been a while since I used my Nook ST, but the book tells you how many pages are left in the chapter.

Also, Nook now supports series. It's a shame that there aren't patchers working on the Nook.
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:46 AM   #112
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It's been a while since I used my Nook ST, but the book tells you how many pages are left in the chapter.

Also, Nook now supports series. It's a shame that there aren't patchers working on the Nook.
Why would they work on patches for the nook? B&N has made it difficult or impossible to liberate their eBooks. Plus, the firmware isn't patchworthy.

What other features does the current firmware have? Does it support collections or some sort of eBook management?
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In the usage I'm familiar with, "for this reason alone" is indeed synonymous with "solely because".
Well, my actual words were "...from a marketing and sales perspective..." which means BOTH how they are advertised/marketed AND how many have been sold. You homed in on the word "marketing" and totally ignored the word "sales" which was right there in the same sentence, probably only a half inch away on your computer screen. You were intentionally distorting my intent, by taking things out of context.
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Why would they work on patches for the nook?

What other features does the current firmware have? Does it support collections or some sort of eBook management?
Yes. On a Nook, collections are called Shelves. Also, you have the option to stack books in your library by Author and you can stack by series. Unfortunately, series only seems to work on books purchased from B&N. I believe Kobo works the same way, if you sideload and don't use Calibre. So Nook could be made better.

It is still missing things like being able to add custom fonts.
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Yes. On a Nook, collections are called Shelves. Also, you have the option to stack books in your library by Author and you can stack by series. Unfortunately, series only seems to work on books purchased from B&N. I believe Kobo works the same way, if you sideload and don't use Calibre. So Nook could be made better.

It is still missing things like being able to add custom fonts.
With Kobo you cannot use the series feature if you do not use Calibre to side load. But there's no reason not to use Calibre.
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With Kobo you cannot use the series feature if you do not use Calibre to side load. But there's no reason not to use Calibre.
I guessing you can. If Calibre can, other things probably can; it is just a matter of wanting it enough.
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I guessing you can. If Calibre can, other things probably can; it is just a matter of wanting it enough.
Not for side loading as the series info has to be filled in the database. You cannot do it while side loading without Calibre.
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Not for side loading as the series info has to be filled in the database. You cannot do it while side loading without Calibre.
I think you don't understand what John F posted.
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I do wish someone would handle sideloading series and shelves data on the Nook.

But then, I know nothing about coding and the amount of work involved, and if wishes were fishes...

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