Amazon Echo Club - Page 232

darryl · 01-24-2019, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

Because in the setup, I had to go through a step to see if Alexa could control the device; shouldn't that have indicated to Alexa the Stupid that I might want to use said device? What other reason would anyone have for connecting the device to Alexa? I did try several times to refresh the list of devices, but there was nothing to tell me to SCAN for new devices.
Take $1,000 company profit.* Company pays tax of $300, and declares fully franked dividend of $1,000.* With imputation an individual on the top marginal rate (45%) would pay an additional $150, limiting total tax on the $1,000 company profit to $450.* Without imputation that same indiviudual taxpayer would pay $450.* The total tax on the $1,000 of company profit would be $300 + $450 or $750.* 75%.* This is why imputation exists.* To prevent this double dipping.**
So ... either the discovery should have been automatic, OR I should have been prompted to scan. Neither happened.

I was going to try pairing my two Dots for stereo sound today too, but I don't feel like having another frustrating set-to with Alexa. Tomorrow is another day.

Don't worry Alexa. You're not perfect but I still love you!

OtinG · 01-25-2019, 11:01 AM

One of my biggest beefs with Amazon's set up instructions for their Alexa enabled devices and their set up instructions for connecting to other devices with Alexa is that they tend to be incorrect more often than correct. It is a moving target. Amazon changes the procedures so ****ing often that even they cannot keep up with the changes and their instructions tend to be outdated. I find that it is usually better to do an internet search and find a good YourScrewed YouTube video from someone who actually got it to work, but those are often outdated too.

Catlady · 01-25-2019, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darryl

Don't worry Alexa. You're not perfect but I still love you!

Someone else isn't perfect either, I daresay; you quoted me as follows:

Quote:

Because in the setup, I had to go through a step to see if Alexa could control the device; shouldn't that have indicated to Alexa the Stupid that I might want to use said device? What other reason would anyone have for connecting the device to Alexa? I did try several times to refresh the list of devices, but there was nothing to tell me to SCAN for new devices.
Take $1,000 company profit.* Company pays tax of $300, and declares fully franked dividend of $1,000.* With imputation an individual on the top marginal rate (45%) would pay an additional $150, limiting total tax on the $1,000 company profit to $450.* Without imputation that same indiviudual taxpayer would pay $450.* The total tax on the $1,000 of company profit would be $300 + $450 or $750.* 75%.* This is why imputation exists.* To prevent this double dipping.**
So ... either the discovery should have been automatic, OR I should have been prompted to scan. Neither happened.

I was going to try pairing my two Dots for stereo sound today too, but I don't feel like having another frustrating set-to with Alexa. Tomorrow is another day.

Don't know where the bolded lines came from, but it wasn't me. Did Alexa make you do it? Oops!

cc_in_oh · 01-25-2019, 12:07 PM

Well my first try at placing an order using Alexa didn't work so well. I put a smokeless indoor grill in my empty cart, then said "Alexa, what's in my cart?". It told me one "nutribullet". So I asked what a nutribullet was and was told it's a food extractor.

If anyone else is curious enough to try this themselves, use Hamilton Beach model 25361 - it would be interesting to see if it works correctly for others. I included the 3-year protection plan if that matters...

wodin · 01-25-2019, 12:59 PM

Back when there was an explicit category for smart home, it did tell you to "discover", either in the app or by commanding "Alexa-discover". When Jeff's kids streamlined the app by combining smart home with installing new Echos into "Add Devices" the directions to "discover" was dropped and they expected the devices setup directions to do that.

I think that was done because not all devices (e.g. new Echos) needed to be discovered. Unfortunately, not all device manufacturers included that instruction and so confusion abounded. Since it doesn't hurt anything to have Alexa discover, I think that was an oversight.

I tell Alexa to discover every now an then just to make sure nothing new has shown up or nothing has been renamed.

OtinG · 01-25-2019, 02:01 PM

When I bought my second Dot 3 before Xmas it arrived already discovered. Unfortunately they chose to name it the same as a Dot 2 I gifted to my sister a year earlier. I had named that device "Donnas Dot2" but then remembered to deregister it before I gave it to her. Not sure what she named it, but deregistering it caused the name "Donnas Dot2" to no longer show up in my device list. Then when my new Dot 3 arrived "Donnas Dot2" showed back up in my list of devices. That was confusing and it took me awhile to realize they had reused the old name for a new device rather than using the traditional "[your name's] 2nd Dot 3" or something that makes more sense. I was getting frustrated that I couldn't get the new Dot 3 to finish registering, but then I finally decided to go to my computer and pull up my devices and see just what the heck "Donnas Dot2" really was, and it was a Dot 3, not a Dot 2, so then I knew what stupidity I was dealing with. At that point all I had to do was rename it. I still cannot believe how utterly stupid Bezos ba*turd [sic] children can be.

Maybe they are inbred!

Tarana · 01-25-2019, 05:14 PM

Having a lot of trouble with dropping in to other echos within the house. Connection seems to start to cut out after about 30 seconds and then end about 30 seconds after that. It's been a worsening problem over the past couple of weeks. Any suggestions? Tried repluggin in and reset.

tubemonkey · 01-25-2019, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarana

Having a lot of trouble with dropping in to other echos within the house. Connection seems to start to cut out after about 30 seconds and then end about 30 seconds after that. It's been a worsening problem over the past couple of weeks. Any suggestions? Tried repluggin in and reset.

darryl · 01-25-2019, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catlady

Someone else isn't perfect either, I daresay; you quoted me as follows:

Don't know where the bolded lines came from, but it wasn't me. Did Alexa make you do it? Oops!

Sorry Catlady. The bolding was not not deliberate. Some sort of strange glitch (not Alexa) or I somehow managed to highlight and bold inadvertently. I'm afraid perfection is not one of my flaws (or virtues).

Catlady · 01-25-2019, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by darryl

Sorry Catlady. The bolding was not not deliberate. Some sort of strange glitch (not Alexa) or I somehow managed to highlight and bold inadvertently. I'm afraid perfection is not one of my flaws (or virtues).

No no no, I am the one who bolded the text to point out what wasn't mine. I am quite curious as to how that unlikely segment of text was mysteriously inserted smack in the middle of the quoted material from my post.

darryl · 01-26-2019, 12:26 AM

It refers to a tax issue currently in the news over here. The most likely way is it was accidentally copied and then pasted from an article or similar on the subject. The particular words are not familiar so I'm not sure of the source. I need to check my posts more carefully. It's quite embarrassing to have been caught accessing such dry and boring subject matter!

Tarana · 01-26-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Loved that. Doesn't work between floors however.

Catlady · 01-26-2019, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darryl

It refers to a tax issue currently in the news over here. The most likely way is it was accidentally copied and then pasted from an article or similar on the subject. The particular words are not familiar so I'm not sure of the source. I need to check my posts more carefully. It's quite embarrassing to have been caught accessing such dry and boring subject matter!

Better "dry and boring" than X-rated!

ApK · 01-26-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

Better "dry and boring" than X-rated!

"We have disturbing news. It seems one of our members may be a deviant, a pervert, or, worse, an accountant."

darryl · 01-26-2019, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

"We have disturbing news. It seems one of our members may be a deviant, a pervert, or, worse, an accountant."

I take extreme offence at the insinuation that I may be an accountant!

01-26-2019, 12:26 AM	#3476
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	It refers to a tax issue currently in the news over here. The most likely way is it was accidentally copied and then pasted from an article or similar on the subject. The particular words are not familiar so I'm not sure of the source. I need to check my posts more carefully. It's quite embarrassing to have been caught accessing such dry and boring subject matter! Last edited by darryl; 01-26-2019 at 12:34 AM.

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01-25-2019, 11:01 AM	#3467
OtinG Old Gadget Guy Posts: 1,913 Karma: 6854865 Join Date: Jun 2018 Device: Oasis 3, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad mini 6, iPad Air 2020, Alexa Devices	One of my biggest beefs with Amazon's set up instructions for their Alexa enabled devices and their set up instructions for connecting to other devices with Alexa is that they tend to be incorrect more often than correct. It is a moving target. Amazon changes the procedures so ****ing often that even they cannot keep up with the changes and their instructions tend to be outdated. I find that it is usually better to do an internet search and find a good YourScrewed YouTube video from someone who actually got it to work, but those are often outdated too.

01-25-2019, 12:07 PM	#3469
cc_in_oh Bob's my uncle Posts: 985 Karma: 17073086 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: NE OH Device: Kindle	Well my first try at placing an order using Alexa didn't work so well. I put a smokeless indoor grill in my empty cart, then said "Alexa, what's in my cart?". It told me one "nutribullet". So I asked what a nutribullet was and was told it's a food extractor. If anyone else is curious enough to try this themselves, use Hamilton Beach model 25361 - it would be interesting to see if it works correctly for others. I included the 3-year protection plan if that matters...

01-25-2019, 12:59 PM	#3470
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Back when there was an explicit category for smart home, it did tell you to "discover", either in the app or by commanding "Alexa-discover". When Jeff's kids streamlined the app by combining smart home with installing new Echos into "Add Devices" the directions to "discover" was dropped and they expected the devices setup directions to do that. I think that was done because not all devices (e.g. new Echos) needed to be discovered. Unfortunately, not all device manufacturers included that instruction and so confusion abounded. Since it doesn't hurt anything to have Alexa discover, I think that was an oversight. I tell Alexa to discover every now an then just to make sure nothing new has shown up or nothing has been renamed.

01-25-2019, 02:01 PM	#3471
OtinG Old Gadget Guy Posts: 1,913 Karma: 6854865 Join Date: Jun 2018 Device: Oasis 3, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad mini 6, iPad Air 2020, Alexa Devices	When I bought my second Dot 3 before Xmas it arrived already discovered. Unfortunately they chose to name it the same as a Dot 2 I gifted to my sister a year earlier. I had named that device "Donnas Dot2" but then remembered to deregister it before I gave it to her. Not sure what she named it, but deregistering it caused the name "Donnas Dot2" to no longer show up in my device list. Then when my new Dot 3 arrived "Donnas Dot2" showed back up in my list of devices. That was confusing and it took me awhile to realize they had reused the old name for a new device rather than using the traditional "[your name's] 2nd Dot 3" or something that makes more sense. I was getting frustrated that I couldn't get the new Dot 3 to finish registering, but then I finally decided to go to my computer and pull up my devices and see just what the heck "Donnas Dot2" really was, and it was a Dot 3, not a Dot 2, so then I knew what stupidity I was dealing with. At that point all I had to do was rename it. I still cannot believe how utterly stupid Bezos ba*turd [sic] children can be. Maybe they are inbred!

01-25-2019, 05:14 PM	#3472
Tarana Wizard Posts: 4,042 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos	Having a lot of trouble with dropping in to other echos within the house. Connection seems to start to cut out after about 30 seconds and then end about 30 seconds after that. It's been a worsening problem over the past couple of weeks. Any suggestions? Tried repluggin in and reset.