"Fear" sells more than 750,000 copies its first day - Page 6

4691mls · 09-18-2018, 10:41 PM

I regularly look at new arrival listings at my library's Overdrive site and I know that over the past year I have seen books that were pro-Trump/anti-Democrat, so they do exist. I don't remember titles because they are not books I would plan to read (I don't normally ready political books from any viewpoint.)

j.p.s · 09-18-2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by darryl

If so, they are not getting any publicity at all. Contrast this with Fear.

That's an interesting standard. I'm pretty much isolated from publicity, so something can be heavily publicized and I might never hear of it.

darryl · 09-19-2018, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by j.p.s

That's an interesting standard. I'm pretty much isolated from publicity, so something can be heavily publicized and I might never hear of it.

The fact that I haven't come across such a work doesn't mean it wasn't heavily publicised. The fact that no one has yet posted here with an example, however, does tend to support that conclusion.

issybird · 09-19-2018, 12:49 AM

A partisan post has been deleted, which will be the policy without notice from now on.

DNSB · 09-19-2018, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by j.p.s

Not see them because they don't come to our attention, or not see them because they don't exist? I don't think I can be bothered to go look for them, but I suspect they exist.

Hmmmm.... a quick search at one library I access shows the following three books as newly added.

Liars, Leakers, and Liberals by Jeanine Pirro (or Judge Jeanine Pirro as the book cover refers to her)

The Russia Hoax by Gregg Jarrett

Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza

There was also America, the Farewell Tour by Chris Hedges though this book seems dedicated to the proposition that everyone except Chris Hedges is deliberately blinding themselves to the corporate coup d'état which is responsible for everything from the opioid crisis on to global warming.

pwalker8 · 09-19-2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by darryl

If so, they are not getting any publicity at all. Contrast this with Fear.

There are actually a lot of pro Trump books out there, several of which are best sellers. There was an interesting editorial, I think it was in the WSJ, earlier this week that talked a bit about the echo chamber and what stories various media outlets choose to report on. The basic jest of the editorial is that one reason that one side of the political spectrum doesn't understand why a particular issue is important to the other side of the political spectrum is because the media that they read doesn't report on the issue, while the media that the other side reads does. The article gave several examples. I think that the writer has a point.

I suspect that most conservatives think that Fear sunk like a rock, just like most liberals have no idea that Gingrich's Trump's America was a best seller.

darryl · 09-19-2018, 07:50 AM

@pwalker8. You may well have a point here. I tend to get most of my publishing news either here on Mobileread, The Passive Voice or The Digital Reader.

j.p.s · 09-19-2018, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Hmmmm.... a quick search at one library I access shows the following three books as newly added.

Liars, Leakers, and Liberals by Jeanine Pirro (or Judge Jeanine Pirro as the book cover refers to her)

The Russia Hoax by Gregg Jarrett

Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza

Going to Amazon, learning that Fear is in the "Politics & Government" category, going to that page, and the Deep State is the next best seller. Clicking on that reveals that buyers of that also bought Trumps Enemies. Some from DNSB's list are further down. I think those and others were higher last week. I think that is enough digging to show that pwalker8 is correct that there are a lot out there. I hope that lays the "I've never seen any, so they don't exist" theory to rest.

darryl · 09-19-2018, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by j.p.s

I hope that lays the "I've never seen any, so they don't exist" theory to rest.

What I actually wrote was:

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I doubt we will see many pro-Trump books. This is not a comment on his merit or otherwise, but on the demand for such books.

DuckieTigger · 09-20-2018, 12:54 AM

Question for those that have already read the book (or listened): Is it fair to say that Fear is only geared towards readers that are already anti Trump and look for confirmation bias? If it doesn't allow to form your own opinion, then I am afraid the book is not for me.

darryl · 09-20-2018, 01:30 AM

@Duckie. I'm not a big fan of political memoirs from any side. Just this one seems to be getting more publicity than most.

AnemicOak · 09-20-2018, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by darryl

@Duckie. I'm not a big fan of political memoirs from any side. Just this one seems to be getting more publicity than most.

Maybe it's getting more international coverage because of who the author is or something? Not sure. Quite a few "Pro" and "Anti" Trump books have gotten quite a bit of coverage on the US in the usual spots when they were about to come out (or so it seemed to me). I can't say for sure as much coverage as 'Fear'. I generally tune out when political books on either side are being mentioned on TV and stuff so am probably not the best judge.

pwalker8 · 09-20-2018, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Maybe it's getting more international coverage because of who the author is or something? Not sure. Quite a few "Pro" and "Anti" Trump books have gotten quite a bit of coverage on the US in the usual spots when they were about to come out (or so it seemed to me). I can't say for sure as much coverage as 'Fear'. I generally tune out when political books on either side are being mentioned on TV and stuff so am probably not the best judge.

I saw the usual reviews of Fear when it first came out, but haven't really heard anything about it since. If I recall correctly Comey's book was reported to have sales figures in the same range as Fear. Political books usually sell well to the faithful. There is a reason one see's stories about famous politicians getting big advances.

issybird · 09-20-2018, 10:39 AM

The posts about the contents of Fear have seemed to me to be getting increasingly dodgy in the context of the MR guidelines. I've started a thread in P&R for those who want to discuss the political aspects and implications of the book itself and the story it relates.

stumped · 09-20-2018, 11:38 AM

good idea: meanwhile CNN money has an article on total sales, best seller lists, and other relevant stuff
not sure if we are allowed to paste extracts so here is the link instead:
https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/19/med...t-seller-list/

it does say that Fear is outsold by Micheal Wolff's Fear and Fury which has sold over 2 million

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09-18-2018, 10:41 PM	#76
4691mls Wizard Posts: 2,776 Karma: 30081762 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US Device: ALL DEVICES ARE STOCK: Kobo Clara, Tolino Shine 2, Sony PRS-T3, T1	I regularly look at new arrival listings at my library's Overdrive site and I know that over the past year I have seen books that were pro-Trump/anti-Democrat, so they do exist. I don't remember titles because they are not books I would plan to read (I don't normally ready political books from any viewpoint.)

09-19-2018, 12:49 AM	#79
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,325 Karma: 234636059 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	A partisan post has been deleted, which will be the policy without notice from now on.

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darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	@pwalker8. You may well have a point here. I tend to get most of my publishing news either here on Mobileread, The Passive Voice or The Digital Reader.

09-20-2018, 12:54 AM	#85
DuckieTigger Wizard Posts: 4,763 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT	Question for those that have already read the book (or listened): Is it fair to say that Fear is only geared towards readers that are already anti Trump and look for confirmation bias? If it doesn't allow to form your own opinion, then I am afraid the book is not for me.

09-20-2018, 01:30 AM	#86
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	@Duckie. I'm not a big fan of political memoirs from any side. Just this one seems to be getting more publicity than most.

09-20-2018, 10:39 AM	#89
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,325 Karma: 234636059 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	The posts about the contents of Fear have seemed to me to be getting increasingly dodgy in the context of the MR guidelines. I've started a thread in P&R for those who want to discuss the political aspects and implications of the book itself and the story it relates.

09-20-2018, 11:38 AM	#90
stumped Wizard Posts: 3,305 Karma: 10259306 Join Date: May 2016 Device: kobo forma, Kobo Libra, Huawei media Tab, fire HD10, PW3 HDX8.9,	good idea: meanwhile CNN money has an article on total sales, best seller lists, and other relevant stuff not sure if we are allowed to paste extracts so here is the link instead: https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/19/med...t-seller-list/ it does say that Fear is outsold by Micheal Wolff's Fear and Fury which has sold over 2 million