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Old 11-09-2017, 04:30 PM   #211
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Great! I had emailed B&N about the storage as well. I also suggested that they should deliberately work the Android end of the G-3 a little more, and make it easy for folks to sideload apps. That's an ability that the competition (in the US, anyway) doesn't have. I wonder how many people would care about apps on an e-reader. I'm thinking of apps like Instapaper or Pocket. No serious games or videos. We'd need better hardware for anything more demanding.
I'm an ereader nerd and I don't care about apps on an e-reader. I think that's a niche of a niche. It is neat to hear about though.

The email address that got me action was: lriggio@bn.com
I got it from this site: https://www.ceoemail.com/s.php?id=ceo-12360

(I emailed on the sixth and got a call back yesterday, the 8th. I just hadn't checked my voicemail until today. She did call back again today, so there was follow-up.)
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:02 PM   #212
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I too called B&N about this today and got a call escalated. They claim someone will get back to me. It's good if enough of us reach out and maybe we can get our message accross.

The thing that I don't understand is that there is a guy on another forum who claims his NG3 is not partitioned, and he posted a screenshot.
https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...ok-glowlight-3

By the way, I see that B&N changed the online specs for the NG3. It now says the memory is partitioned. I hope this is not the end of how they plan to handle this. But I'm not sure if a partition is even addressable in a software update.

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Old 11-09-2017, 05:19 PM   #213
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There are maybe four or five apps that I would want on an Android e-reader. That's it. And they all are about reading. The problem is that the one I would use the most is also the most demanding as to hardware and Android version! Oh well. I can run that app on another device, of course, but it would be easier to have it on an eInk e-reader.

Other than that, bring on the books! Then, with what money I have left, I can eat.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:39 PM   #214
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By the way, I see that B&N changed the online specs for the NG3.
Yep. The site is unambiguous: "1GB for side-loaded content."
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:42 PM   #215
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For the price, I think it's a terrific value compared to its direct competition. It bugs me the way the Paperwhite is quoted at $120, when to get it without special offers adds another $20 to the price, a whopping increase in percentage terms but the comparable price to other ad-less readers.
Amazon likes to use fake prices as marketing tools. Another example is when they advertise an audiobook for $0.00 (with your first month's subscription in fine print) and force you to hunt for the actual price.

The do it with books too, putting the Kindle Unlimited price in big print and making you look for the real prince in fine print.

I'm a big fan of Amazon in general but I've sent them a couple of complaints about these practices. They're deceptive and despicable.

Well, since, at 77, I've shrunk all the way down to 5'4" tall, I guess saying I'm a big fan is a bit deceptive, too.

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Old 11-09-2017, 07:45 PM   #216
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Yeah, I'd say, in spirit, it's more like:

Simple Touch
Simple Touch with Glowlight
Glowlight (1)
Glowlight Plus (2)
Simple Touch with Glowlight 2!

But that wouldn't work...so it's Glowlight 3.
Microsoft went from Windows 8 to Windows 10. Iphone went from the Iphone 7 (or is it 6?) to Iphone 10. Ford had a better idea. You can be sure if it's Westinghouse. Put a tiger in your tank. Nothing new about any of this.

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Old 11-09-2017, 08:17 PM   #217
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Hey, a few pages back I mentioned that I emailed Len Riggio about the storage capacity on the new Glowlight.

While I was at lunch, I got a call from a Stephanie at Barnes and Noble and we talked about it. I actually told her that she should come here and read this thread. Whatever else, I appreciate that B&N did have someone reach out and talk to me.

She also mentioned maybe getting me a deal on the Glowlight Plus, but I didn't go into detail on that one. I was/am hoping that someone at B&N would listen and at least allow the same 2.5GB for sideloading that the Plus had.
But the problem would be it would still have partitioned storage. There should be no partitioned storage. I know I'd be pissed if I filled the side loaded storage and still had plenty of nook book storage but no way to access it for side loading.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:17 PM   #218
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I'd like to have Dropbox on my ereader. I can access it with my Kobo but it's troublesome and painfully slow. Still it's good to have it there.

As for the partitioned memory, 1 gig is more than enough for me. I don't keep a large number of books on my devices. I doubt if I've ever reached 100 meg but I'm not really sure of that. Still, the idea of all that wasted memory is irritating.

My guess is that I'll eventually get one but I think I want to see it before I really decide.

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But the problem would be it would still have partitioned storage. There should be no partitioned storage. I know I'd be pissed if I filled the side loaded storage and still had plenty of nook book storage but no way to access it for side loading.
Well, to be an optimist, you don't know what B&N will do. They could remove the partition. They could give us all the finger and do nothing. Or they could do something in between. If they do something in between of course it is up to the individual to decide if what they did was good enough.

For the moment, I'm glad I actually got a response at all. I'm not holding my breath that there will be any change, but hey, someone listened.
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:44 PM   #220
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And the STR was a very poor design. The rubber was awful and the rounded corners are ugly and the oversize bezel is awful. Overall, a very poor design. I don't see why B&N would use is again.
We get that you don't like it, there are those who do. I don't have a problem with holding it because I always have bought the Nook covers and that makes it easy for me to hold.

I am tempted to look it over, will have to see it in my hand before I buy.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:37 PM   #221
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We get that you don't like it, there are those who do. I don't have a problem with holding it because I always have bought the Nook covers and that makes it easy for me to hold.

I am tempted to look it over, will have to see it in my hand before I buy.
Barnes & Noble sold a lot of Nook Simple Touches. So, apparently, not everyone shared JSWolf's disdain for them.

I owned (past tense) a couple Kobos (the original WiFi and the Glo). I wasn't thrilled with either because the software seemed laggy, the screen seemed unresponsive and (for some) every time there was an update it seemed a feature was lost or something went wrong. I didn't have any real problems with updates, but I saw others' horror stories and it ticked me off when they took away Chess on the Glo (which was a feature they advertised). I'm guessing the newer Kobos have gotten past most of this (I don't know, I'm not in the market for one). But my point is, despite my negative experiences with my Kobos, I don't feel the need to post constantly about them in the Kobo forums. I understand that some folks love their Kobos and that's great. I like the fact that there is choice. I just don't care much for Kobo (neither for the devices or the online market).

I still consider the Nook Simple Touch (with and without Glowlight) to be best ergonomically designed eReader that I've ever used. And I like the UI and software (actually I like it better than the newer Glowlights' software). This is why I was excited to see the GlowLight 3 mimicking the design of the NST.

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Old 11-09-2017, 11:46 PM   #222
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She also mentioned maybe getting me a deal on the Glowlight Plus, but I didn't go into detail on that one. I was/am hoping that someone at B&N would listen and at least allow the same 2.5GB for sideloading that the Plus had.
That seems like it would be a reasonable compromise. Although (obviously) I would just as soon they got rid of the separate partitions altogether.

Thanks for writing to them. I hope the changed description for the GlowLight 3's storage specs wasn't their final answer. But (being a pessimist) I'm guessing it probably was.
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