Amazon announces new 7" waterproof Oasis with 32GB storage option

[rem736]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

So much for that decision. Just placed an order for the 8GB WiFi only version. The temptation was too great, as always...

Now I'm feeling really ashamed of myself.

don't be. i did pre-ordered as well, replacing my voyage. the larger screen, water proofing, and aluminum casing convinced me. i also got just the wifi in 8 gb. no need for cellular as i do not purchase books on impulse and i do not intend to use it for audible.

[Stingo]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

So much for that decision. Just placed an order for the 8GB WiFi only version. The temptation was too great, as always...

Now I'm feeling really ashamed of myself.

Now, Now, nothing to be ashamed of if you can afford to satisfy a wholesome pleasure. Just think how excited you are going to be when you open the box. :-)

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Atunah

And I have never even seen this Usb C, don't know what it looks like. All my devices have the same plugs. And they aren't 10 years old. I guess at one point I won't have a choice, if this is a new format they are going too. But I really am not looking forward to buying a bunch of new cables just for that. Are there adapters for that stuff?

Of course, there are adapters. But, you get none of the benefits of USB C. There are still mid-range cell phones on the market with USB micro but that system was introduced ten years ago. It's old.

Rapid charge, faster data transfer, and a plug that works either way you put it in are nice.

USB came in 1995. USB mini showed up in 2000. USB micro--what Kindle uses--showed up in 2007. USB C was introduced in 2013.
https://www.aukey.com/a-brief-timeline-of-the-usb-52426

When I got my first USB C device it was a pain. But, I came to like the rapid charge and the faster data transfer. And plugging in without considering which side is up, or in the dark, was a nice. Of course, I still have some USB micro cables. Have to, for my Kindles, don't I?

But, I suspect some day even Amazon Kindle will move to USB C. Probably two years after USB D are introduced.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by shalym

Interesting. I, on the other hand, don't own anything with a USB C connection. I have a cell phone, 3 different tablets, and 3 different brands of e-readers. Not one of them uses USB C.

My son got a cell phone that uses USB C, and it's a major pain. He travels for a living, and if he accidentally leaves his cable in a hotel room or on the jobsite, he can't just go into a convenience store and buy a new cable. He has dozens of micro USB cables, but the only place he can find USB C is either Amazon or Best Buy.

Shari

That's all true. Change is uncomfortable, briefly. Me? I bought adapters for about $3 that convert the obnoxious USB micro plug to a USB C plug. Other than convenience in plugging it in, you lose all the benefits but you keep the convenience of all of your old cables. Of course, once you use rapid charge and faster data transfer the new cables seem to be a minor issue.

And the day is near when one charger, one cable, will charge your laptop, your Chromebook, your phone, your tablet. your earphones, your Bluetooth earphones and that cable will be USB C.
https://youtu.be/eFLTXiT5Rso

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You won't find a Kindle charges faster with USB-C. Given the specs of the current Kindle charger, the Kindle charges with 1.8a. What is it about USB-C that would let a device charge faster? Also, you would not notice the difference between the microUSB port and a USB-C port on a Kindle for transferring content.

I am not an engineer. My cell phone has USB C and charges rapidly. My Chromebook has USB C and downloads files quickly. My Chromebook also charges quickly. So, why is it that a Kindle Oasis can't be built with USB C and rapid charge?

As for data transfer, Kindle is selling a 32Gb option for the Oasis to accomodate audio books. That means downloading larger files, doesn't it? So, why is it everything except Kindles can have higher data transfer with USB C?

Just curious. Perhaps Kindles are at a dead end and Amazon Kindle can move ehead.

[rguion]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

So much for that decision. Just placed an order for the 8GB WiFi only version. The temptation was too great, as always...

Now I'm feeling really ashamed of myself.

You are not alone in placing an order as you can see! I don't feel guilty. I have about five ways to justify it.

[DaleDe]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You won't find a Kindle charges faster with USB-C. Given the specs of the current Kindle charger, the Kindle charges with 1.8a. What is it about USB-C that would let a device charge faster? Also, you would not notice the difference between the microUSB port and a USB-C port on a Kindle for transferring content.

It will charge faster from a computer because USB 3 allow more current.

Dale

[tomsem]

USB C has little market penetration at this point. Faster charging and data transfer require upgraded components, which confer little benefit for the Kindle’s purpose in life, and would probably make them more expensive (because Amazon might have to include a charger or adapter to avoid frustrating the 95% of people who don’t yet have USB C in their lives). If they are still making Kindles two years from now then maybe.

I would not assume very many people are going to be happy using Kindle for audiobooks. People may have other reasons for wanting 32GB, but in a world where 80% have smartphones, that is a far superior device in multiple ways. Audible on Kindle feature is just advertisement for Audible. They did this before, it was no match for even the cheapest MP3 player and was more costly besides. It’s physically never been optimal and the software will remain far more limited than Audible app on any other platform. That doesn’t mean people won’t buy one thinking they will use Audible on it - they are just wrong.

I know I’ve said if I get the new Oasis I’ll get 32GB but it is totally irrational on my part, I don’t have any good reason other than the usually reliable heuristic that ‘the base model doesn’t have enough storage’. Others may have a real use case (they read manga a lot or have large caches of ebooks carefully hoarded and like the idea of having that on device for some reason). Not me.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by tomsem

I would not assume very many people are going to be happy using Kindle for audiobooks. People may have other reasons for wanting 32GB, but in a world where 80% have smartphones, that is a far superior device in multiple ways. Audible on Kindle feature is just advertisement for Audible. They did this before, it was no match for even the cheapest MP3 player and was more costly besides. It’s physically never been optimal and the software will remain far more limited than Audible app on any other platform. That doesn’t mean people won’t buy one thinking they will use Audible on it - they are just wrong.

I know I’ve said if I get the new Oasis I’ll get 32GB but it is totally irrational on my part, I don’t have any good reason other than the usually reliable heuristic that ‘the base model doesn’t have enough storage’. Others may have a real use case (they read manga a lot or have large caches of ebooks carefully hoarded and like the idea of having that on device for some reason). Not me.

I do hope to use the Oasis for whispersync audiobooks but if not paying the extra £30 for 4 times the storage was a no brainier. I'm buying the wifi version as I also have nearly 1000 personal document ebooks in my Amazon Cloud and plan to download those, and all my Amazon ebooks, to my device.

[stumped]

i was curious enough to go look for trade in options on older kindles but that seems to be a USA only thing ?
I can bring up trade ins as a dept. at amazon.co.uk but every item shown is saying no trade ins available
and if you try to sell an old kindle or kindle case on amazon market place they take 40% commission

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by stumped

i was curious enough to go look for trade in options on older kindles but that seems to be a USA only thing ?

It is indeed.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

It will charge faster from a computer because USB 3 allow more current.

Dale

And how many people plug their Kindle into the computer to charge? It's actually rather inconvenient. as you are then stuck where the computer is. Also, a USB-C port on a Kindle is only useful if you have a USB-C port on the computer.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by patrickt

As for data transfer, Kindle is selling a 32Gb option for the Oasis to accomodate audio books. That means downloading larger files, doesn't it? So, why is it everything except Kindles can have higher data transfer with USB C?

You'd need a computer with USB-C. Do you have one? Most of the time people will download these audiobooks via WiFi and that's the limiting factor, not the type of USB port. Kindle's do not have 802.11ac and that would make it faster for more people than a USB-C port.

[JoHunt]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And how many people plug their Kindle into the computer to charge? It's actually rather inconvenient. as you are then stuck where the computer is. If I need to charge and want to read in bed att he same time I can, but not if I'm charging from the computer.

I charge mine from my computer all the time. I know when the battery is low and don't wait for it to run down before I plug it in for a charge. I think this is fairly common ...

Jon, are you thinking of buying an Oasis?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by JoHunt

I charge mine from my computer all the time. I know when the battery is low and don't wait for it to run down before I plug it in for a charge. I think this is fairly common ...

Jon, are you thinking of buying an Oasis?

Nope. But I might have bought a 7" Voyage as a Christmas gift if such existed.