how i found the definitive ereader - Page 6

fozzedout · 11-07-2016, 03:39 PM

I just realised I phrased it badly: On the Yotaphone I get bad stutters during animations, whereas the LG G3 with an older, less capable chip, I don't get such stuttering.

But it appears to be GPU bound, I can switch to a PDF, or some other cpu intensive task, and it will be working just fine. It's just an oddity. Very odd.

JSWolf · 11-07-2016, 03:46 PM

Yotaphone is NOT the definitive Reader. So why is it being much talked about in a thread about the definitive Reader?

pdurrant · 11-07-2016, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Perhaps we should move the discussion about Yotaphone tips and tricks to another thread, somewhere in the Android Devices subforum
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=225

A thread for discussion of the care and feeding of the Yotaphone 2!

fozzedout · 11-08-2016, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yotaphone is NOT the definitive Reader. So why is it being much talked about in a thread about the definitive Reader?

For yourself, it seems that it isn't the definitive reader. You may already have yours, or it may be something that hasn't been invented yet.

As with anything, "definitive" is highly subjective to each person, as well as time. What might have been the best years ago is no longer the best as technology marches on.

However, I have stated that this is, for me personally, the definitive ereader for what I want it to do - and that is to mainly read novels.

I prefer the narrow column for reading over the normal wider ereader designs.

I don't carry a bag and it is not warring for space with my phone/wallet/keys (which are my essentials).

The screen is multifunctional, so it doesn't just read books, it extends the functionality to go above and beyond a normal reader.

I can use the Kindle app and another ePub reader on the same device and they work very well without silly hacks, cracks or hassle.

For a quick dip in large pdf tomes on the other hand, the Yotaphone is powerful enough to search and navigate around large PDFs quickly, read and if needed, keep alive on the eink screen indefinitely.

Granted, if I want to read something of a technical nature for an extended period that has pdf pages approaching A4 size, I will crack out my M96, because the phone screen size will not be enough for prolonged periods of reading, neither will my 6" Kindle and my 7" Onyx T68.

So, yes, to summarise, for me this is the definitive reader. No other device has come close to being my definitive reader before.

kacir · 11-08-2016, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yotaphone is NOT the definitive Reader.

Yotaphone is THE definitive reader for the original poster trocchietto, in combination with Samsung galaxy note tab s2.

The rest of us got carried away, because as it happens, Yotaphone 2 is at this moment on sale on several Chinese sites.

For me personally, Yotaphone is not the definitive reader. I have several readers already and Yotaphone will be the definitive reader for me at the moment when I am out and about and can pull it out of pocket and start reading for 5 minutes (instead of staring at the rain at the bus stop).

Barty · 11-08-2016, 10:35 PM

I'm glad it's working for fozzedout, but i wouldn't get something like this because it just doubles the chance of the screen breaking (sorry, pdurrant) and there is no way for the phone to land right side up. Also, hybrid devices tend to be mediocre at both things they are trying to do.

I'd like to see the pebble watch folks try to make a pebble phone, with just an e-ink screen. The selling point will be battery life and sunlight readability. Add a front light for night use. Some company long ago demonstrated video on e-ink, and Amazon has shown you can get fast page refresh on existing hardware. You don't need 30fps, you just need to make it not painfully slow. (Of course I don't know what kind of hit that is on the battery.) It'll be a niche product for sure, but they'll have the niche all to themselves.

MikeB1972 · 11-09-2016, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Yotaphone is THE definitive reader for the original poster trocchietto, in combination with Samsung galaxy note tab s2.

What, the Yotaphone to read on while keeping warm in front of a nice cosy blazing galaxy note

Sweetpea · 11-09-2016, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Yotaphone is THE definitive reader for the original poster trocchietto, in combination with Samsung galaxy note tab s2.

Galaxy Note Tab S2... I never heard of that device! I do know the Galaxy Note 8.0, I also know about the Galaxy Tab S2. Sadly, Samsung doesn't make the Galaxy Note 8.0 anymore nor will there be a replacement for it... (I'd be the first to buy it!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barty

Also, hybrid devices tend to be mediocre at both things they are trying to do.

Agreed. But at the current price (between €150 and €200) it's a very nice device. Especially if it ticks a lot of your boxes. I wouldn't have bought it for the original price of $700...

Terisa de morgan · 11-09-2016, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Agreed. But at the current price (between €150 and €200) it's a very nice device. Especially if it ticks a lot of your boxes. I wouldn't have bought it for the original price of $700...

Less than 150€ for me, so it's a nice device for going out a day you have a small bag, you're going to be a lot of time out of home (think more than 12 hours) and you're going to read very few time.

Sweetpea · 11-09-2016, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

Less than 150€ for me, so it's a nice device for going out a day you have a small bag, you're going to be a lot of time out of home (think more than 12 hours) and you're going to read very few time.

I got the Android 5 version, so it was a bit more expensive (€30 more

)

Terisa de morgan · 11-09-2016, 08:02 AM

What's the improvement of Android 5? I don't really know.

Sweetpea · 11-09-2016, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

What's the improvement of Android 5? I don't really know.

No idea, but I wanted at least an Android 5, as I already have an Android 4.4 device (my Galaxy Note 8.0)

I have no knowledge about android at all, as I'm a windows girl myself (with two windows tablets, and two windows phones...)

Terisa de morgan · 11-09-2016, 09:41 AM

I'm an all-OS girl I guess (Windows, linux, android, iOS), but i've never liked to be at the last release unless I have a real improvement. usually they are more resource-greedy and same functionality.

trocchietto · 11-09-2016, 01:01 PM

AFAIK there is now a thread on the Android section.

Kacir thanks. Barty I do not agree with you, technically you are not right to generalize hybrid devices with yp2. If you follow the dev thread on xda, you see that is an effective android phone, plus you can launch so called explicit intents to send the message on the other screen, that fully and natively benefit from a processor that is more than double of the power of the average of the existing ereaders as kobo, kindle, tolino etc.

exactly, how I(for me, in my opnion,for personal use) found the definitive ereader is a combination of three things as explained in the first post. Sometimes I need to see a video on 8 inches, or to work on a huge pdf, so samsung galaxy tab 2 with his magnificent screen do a perfect work.

the ONLY issue so far is finding a way to sync the 15 GB reading documents on the two devices( yp2 and tab s2), with highlights, current page, and note.
Mantano is the most acceptable solution, great sw but I should pay 50 eu per year, and if they will decide one day I have to pay more I will be linked to them with thousands of highlights.

JSWolf · 11-10-2016, 09:29 AM

I'd prefer a solution that used whatever server I chose be it Onedrive, Dropbox, Mediafire, etc. I refuse to pay to sync.

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11-07-2016, 03:39 PM	#76
fozzedout Guru Posts: 632 Karma: 2143019 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Manchester, UK Device: Onyx M96, Kindle Basic 2014, Onyx T68 Lynx, Icarus Illumina E653	I just realised I phrased it badly: On the Yotaphone I get bad stutters during animations, whereas the LG G3 with an older, less capable chip, I don't get such stuttering. But it appears to be GPU bound, I can switch to a PDF, or some other cpu intensive task, and it will be working just fine. It's just an oddity. Very odd.

11-07-2016, 03:46 PM	#77
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Yotaphone is NOT the definitive Reader. So why is it being much talked about in a thread about the definitive Reader?

11-08-2016, 10:35 PM	#81
Barty doofus Posts: 2,551 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage	I'm glad it's working for fozzedout, but i wouldn't get something like this because it just doubles the chance of the screen breaking (sorry, pdurrant) and there is no way for the phone to land right side up. Also, hybrid devices tend to be mediocre at both things they are trying to do. I'd like to see the pebble watch folks try to make a pebble phone, with just an e-ink screen. The selling point will be battery life and sunlight readability. Add a front light for night use. Some company long ago demonstrated video on e-ink, and Amazon has shown you can get fast page refresh on existing hardware. You don't need 30fps, you just need to make it not painfully slow. (Of course I don't know what kind of hit that is on the battery.) It'll be a niche product for sure, but they'll have the niche all to themselves.

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11-09-2016, 09:41 AM	#88
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,636 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	I'm an all-OS girl I guess (Windows, linux, android, iOS), but i've never liked to be at the last release unless I have a real improvement. usually they are more resource-greedy and same functionality.

11-09-2016, 01:01 PM	#89
trocchietto Addict Posts: 399 Karma: 2038458 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Amsterdam, but I am neapolitan Device: sony 650 ,T2, samsung 7.7, ipad2, ipad mini2, yotaphone2, galax tab s2	AFAIK there is now a thread on the Android section. Kacir thanks. Barty I do not agree with you, technically you are not right to generalize hybrid devices with yp2. If you follow the dev thread on xda, you see that is an effective android phone, plus you can launch so called explicit intents to send the message on the other screen, that fully and natively benefit from a processor that is more than double of the power of the average of the existing ereaders as kobo, kindle, tolino etc. exactly, how I(for me, in my opnion,for personal use) found the definitive ereader is a combination of three things as explained in the first post. Sometimes I need to see a video on 8 inches, or to work on a huge pdf, so samsung galaxy tab 2 with his magnificent screen do a perfect work. the ONLY issue so far is finding a way to sync the 15 GB reading documents on the two devices( yp2 and tab s2), with highlights, current page, and note. Mantano is the most acceptable solution, great sw but I should pay 50 eu per year, and if they will decide one day I have to pay more I will be linked to them with thousands of highlights.

11-10-2016, 09:29 AM	#90
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I'd prefer a solution that used whatever server I chose be it Onedrive, Dropbox, Mediafire, etc. I refuse to pay to sync.