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Old 09-30-2016, 09:14 PM   #1501
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While she could've approached her answer from a myriad of directions, she chose to celebrate the sexy. Me, I read for the relationship, and tend to skim over a lot of the physical stuff especially in audio format.

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Old 09-30-2016, 09:24 PM   #1502
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I agree with you Blossom. That's how I read it too. I checked my Library and I don't have any books by her. If a book sounds like it has a lot of sex(y), I skip right by. I want Romance not sex...
I do. I have her first series but have not read it yet. Romance is not sex. Sex is not romance. I skim through sex scenes that are there as filler. I need romance, a good plot and true love that conquers all.





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While she could've approached her answer from a myriad of directions, she chose to celebrate the sexy. Me, I read for the relationship, and tend to skim over a lot of the physical stuff especially in audio format.

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Me too! Specially in Audio which is hard to do. Most apps don't have a fast forward button. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way. This is why I read old school romances more and more. They are less sexy and more heavy on plot.




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Old 09-30-2016, 09:45 PM   #1503
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Y'all probably have heard me say I'm a TTS fan. If no one is home I'll use the Echo for TTS for Kindle books, sometimes an Android app sent to the Echo if it's not a kindle book. I prefer not to listen that way if hubby or son are around with some authors...

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Old 09-30-2016, 09:54 PM   #1504
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Y'all probably have heard me say I'm a TTS fan. If no one is home I'll use the Echo for TTS for Kindle books, sometimes an Android app sent to the Echo if it's not a kindle book. I prefer not to listen that way if hubby or son are around with some authors...

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I couldn't do it with fiction but I use TTS for nonfiction.

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Old 09-30-2016, 11:11 PM   #1505
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I have a problem with the article. I'm one as you all know that reads romance for romance. I don't need the sexy to enjoy a romance. I understand why it's used and it's fine when it advances the story but it seem to me this article brought out how many non romance readers think. Instead of correcting them about romance isn't about the sexy it's about the couple. It seemed to me she is saying. So what! She is saying women read these books because of the sexy. Very disheartening. I do know some do read it for that but the majority don't. Am I misunderstanding it?

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I think there are just as many that read it for the sexy as well as the romance. I know I do, and there is nothing wrong with that. I read strictly for entertainment and to have a romance without sex is just plain unrealistic and boring.

Nor do I understand why you are so disheartend about it? what anyone else reads had zero impact on you or your life.

One of the benefits of marriage is supposedly having sex, but so many women choose to have a disconnect of that fact with their reading material, then make a point of proclaiming I read them just for the romance. All that tells me is that they have bought into the negative stereo type of other peoples opinion of the genre and feel that they have to justify what they are reading.

Me, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK! What I read, is for my pleasure not yours, you have nothing to do with it, and even less to say about it if you're smart. What's more is I don't care what you read either, I'm too busy enjoy my own sexy books to be thinking about whatever it is that you're reading.

People need to learn to live and let live. Life would be so much more pleasant.

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Old 09-30-2016, 11:37 PM   #1506
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I think for me, I like sensuality in books, but a lot of the newer stuff has no heart in it. The sex has to be part of the couple adventure, the story, it has to be one. So many of the scenes feel tacked on nowadays and often the story takes a back seat to yet another sex scene.

Some of the "older" romances have also sex and sensuality scenes, but they often feel more integrated and the stories feel more epic and romantic overall.

At least that is how I feel. There are all levels of heat in romance and sex does not define the genre romance. The romance does. There is sex in other genres of course. But often the genre is being reduced to sex and nothing else.

I don't really seek out so called closed door romances either, I like the natural and well written progression and payoff. But I want it to be with heart and feelings. Yearning and anticipation. Oh the payoff is so much sweeter and sexier.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:50 AM   #1507
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Still no Jill Shalvis' The Trouble with Mistletoe at the Harlequin site

Something really odd though, all of the Harlequin Special Edition titles in digital are priced differently for November
  • A Child Under His Tree by Allison Leigh $2.99
  • Callie's Christmas Wish by Merline Lovelace $3.99
  • The Rancher's Expectant Christmas by Karen Templeton $4.49
  • Thankful for You by Joanna Sims $4.99
  • The Maverick's Holiday Surprise by Karen Rose Smith $5.49
  • The Cowboy's Big Family Tree by Meg Maxwell $5.99
As far as I know books in the same line are about the same length so this strikes me as really strange
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:11 AM   #1508
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MacLean focused the discussion on sex because that's specifically what people in the cases she cited think romance novels come down to. The phrases "sex books" and "smut novels" are used, and a not-so-veiled remark how romance novels are not real books. Even if you tell them that romance is about the relationship, the disdain is there, evident because, well…women and sex.

It's essentially sexist microaggression, hence the headline. I don't read any part of that article as MacLean saying women are reading romance for the sexy. Instead of defending against the misconceptions, she's turning it all around. "If all one has against the romance genre is the sex, then that's just another form of slut-shaming."

As for the rest of it, I'm with cfrizz. I say, though, that I read romance for the romance. For me, it involves how an author explores that romance; and it includes intimacy, whether physical or emotional. I read for the feels. I read for the sexy. I read for many reasons. If my romance has characters who sex each other up all the way to their HEA, then I'm OK with that too. (Well, actually, maybe.)

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Old 10-01-2016, 03:14 AM   #1509
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i usually skip through sex scenes if i like a book, not because i'm against sex in books but because whatever i get out of romances doesn't seem to involve sex scenes - or at least not the sex scenes i find in the books i read.
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Old 10-01-2016, 03:21 AM   #1510
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I read sometimes the sex scenes, I skip them in other situations, I read erotic romances and totally clean romances. It's the same. I read what I like, period. News, articles, critics, other people can think as they like, I know what I want (neither family nor friends say nothing about it, they are trained well )

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Is your plugin only for personal use and is it customizable? It sounds like something I would be interested in.
It's totally for my personal use in the sense that it's taylor-made to my way of working with books. The fields that the plugin cleans are not customizable. The actions are:
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This is only one of the options of the plugin, the first one I apply when I book goes into my library.

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ETA: From bustle.com, an article by Sarah MacLean on bashing of the romance genre.
Well, it's a standard article about genre.

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Old 10-01-2016, 08:41 AM   #1512
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I think there are just as many that read it for the sexy as well as the romance. I know I do, and there is nothing wrong with that. I read strictly for entertainment and to have a romance without sex is just plain unrealistic and boring.

Nor do I understand why you are so disheartend about it? what anyone else reads had zero impact on you or your life.

One of the benefits of marriage is supposedly having sex, but so many women choose to have a disconnect of that fact with their reading material, then make a point of proclaiming I read them just for the romance. All that tells me is that they have bought into the negative stereo type of other peoples opinion of the genre and feel that they have to justify what they are reading.

Me, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK! What I read, is for my pleasure not yours, you have nothing to do with it, and even less to say about it if you're smart. What's more is I don't care what you read either, I'm too busy enjoy my own sexy books to be thinking about whatever it is that you're reading.

People need to learn to live and let live. Life would be so much more pleasant.
Unfortunately it does. I'd love to discuss books with friends and family but because of the media putting the genre in a negative light they think of romance books in a negative sense. I can't talk about it on my Facebook wall. I can't talk about it in real life. It's disheartening when you defend the genre over and over only to see an author totally not get romance isn't about the sexy. It's about the couple. You get tired of hearing terms mommy porn because I don't read porn. Not all romances have sex in them yet the whole genre is lump together thanks to misinformation.

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Old 10-01-2016, 08:47 AM   #1513
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I think for me, I like sensuality in books, but a lot of the newer stuff has no heart in it. The sex has to be part of the couple adventure, the story, it has to be one. So many of the scenes feel tacked on nowadays and often the story takes a back seat to yet another sex scene.

Some of the "older" romances have also sex and sensuality scenes, but they often feel more integrated and the stories feel more epic and romantic overall.

At least that is how I feel. There are all levels of heat in romance and sex does not define the genre romance. The romance does. There is sex in other genres of course. But often the genre is being reduced to sex and nothing else.

I don't really seek out so called closed door romances either, I like the natural and well written progression and payoff. But I want it to be with heart and feelings. Yearning and anticipation. Oh the payoff is so much sweeter and sexier.
I couldn't said it better. It needs to flow into the story, advancing it and what you call sensuality I call sexual tension which most modern romances lack. There nothing better than sexual tension or chemistry between the h/h in a story. The build up is always the best part when it crescendos it being the love scene that should take my breath away.

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Still no Jill Shalvis' The Trouble with Mistletoe at the Harlequin site

Something really odd though, all of the Harlequin Special Edition titles in digital are priced differently for November
  • A Child Under His Tree by Allison Leigh $2.99
  • Callie's Christmas Wish by Merline Lovelace $3.99
  • The Rancher's Expectant Christmas by Karen Templeton $4.49
  • Thankful for You by Joanna Sims $4.99
  • The Maverick's Holiday Surprise by Karen Rose Smith $5.49
  • The Cowboy's Big Family Tree by Meg Maxwell $5.99
As far as I know books in the same line are about the same length so this strikes me as really strange
That is very odd!

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I think there are a few weird things going on over on the Harlequin site. I sent them an email because I tried to get a book whose price was 5.59. As soon as I put it in my cart, the price jumped to 11.99.
Yesterday and today when I log into the my rewards part of the site, my points are at the top, but then there are no polls or other points activities listed - the page is just blank.
They are also moving like molasses on point redemption. I submitted my receipt for points more than 10 days ago. When I had had no response of any kind after a week, I sent a second email, with a polite note that I was resending because I hadn't heard anything, and since it was my first time submitting, assumed that I had not done it correctly or sent it to the right address. I got a very snotty email back, telling me that it takes 3-7 days to see the points in my account. Now at 11 days and counting........
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