Historical Novels, Period Dramas, etc. Should Not Exist! - Page 6

pdurrant · 09-13-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by QuantumIguana

If the history isn't accurate, I'm not likely to read a work of historical fiction. Anachronism and whitewashing pulls me out of the story.

I'm willing for authors to make some adjustments to events to allow for their characters to be present. Anachronisms are painful if I notice them.

QuantumIguana · 09-13-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

How far do you take it, though? Would you refuse to read a book set in medieval France unless all the dialogue were in medieval French, or would you accept the anachronism of modern English dialogue?

Short of me learning to read French, having the dialogue in English is just a necessary condition for me to be able to read it. I assume that the characters are actually speaking French, and the author is merely rendering their words in a way I am capable of reading.

4691mls · 09-13-2016, 10:56 AM

But of course modern fiction is all perfectly accurate - we can learn exactly what being an attorney, policeman, doctor, etc. is like from watching TV shows about them

molloee · 09-13-2016, 12:04 PM

To add a little stern recordkeeping to a thread that has already had some wild swings of mood, here is some historical fiction that would have to be thrown out with the bathwater, if we were to abandon the game altogether. I have limited myself to books and serials that were written by authors who were not alive during the time concerned, even as an infant:

1. War and Peace by Tolstoy

—Actually, I'll stop at one. I had Dumas, Dickens, Hugo, Faulkner, Stevenson, George Eliot, Hawthorne, and Charlotte Brontë lined up on the top of my head, but any rule that excludes War and Peace is a rule to toss. You may as well say the whole game of fiction should be abandoned.

DiapDealer · 09-13-2016, 12:22 PM

Impressive first post!

(though a bit shorter than it was originally

)

molloee · 09-13-2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

(though a bit shorter than it was originally

)

Sorry if this was taboo! I tried to nick it immediately. For those who don't have mod privileges—I am guessing that is why you're green—I had a little section agreeing with 4691mls that all fiction is laced with inaccuracies anyway, and if you avoid historical fiction to free yourself from writers' base speculation about what life looks like on the surface, you may as well avoid the whole lot. But I thought I was being wordy and too loose, so I went back down to just Tolstoy.

My edited post was not an accurate reflection of life as it had occurred three minutes prior. Unfortunately, DiapDealer has a sharp eye for anachronisms.

DiapDealer · 09-13-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by molloee

Sorry if this was taboo!

Editing your own post is not taboo at all. I simply preferred the longer format.

AnemicOak · 09-13-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Editing your own post is not taboo at all. I simply preferred the longer format.

I thought it was a good post too.

Katsunami · 09-13-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by molloee

For those who don't have mod privileges—I am guessing that is why you're green—

No, no... you have that the wrong way around. All the black ones are moderators, the green ones are not; they are just extremely envious of all our super powers

badgoodDeb · 09-13-2016, 03:18 PM

(Note: he's kidding!)

Cinisajoy · 09-13-2016, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Katsunami

No, no... you have that the wrong way around. All the black ones are moderators, the green ones are not; they are just extremely envious of all our super powers

I shall use my super powers to do something with this post.

Oh I know I shall tell the other poster that long posts are very acceptable here.
The green ones don't bite hard unless they know you.

4691mls · 09-13-2016, 06:44 PM

I'm happy to read long posts as long as they are broken into paragraphs.

Just don't post huge photos, or links to pirated books, and you should be fine!

Cinisajoy · 09-13-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 4691mls

I'm happy to read long posts as long as they are broken into paragraphs.

Just don't post huge photos, or links to pirated books, and you should be fine!

Or ask how to find pirated books. Or post links to spam or scams.

Though this link to Spam http://www.spam.com should be ok. Lunch meat.

LitaVore · 09-13-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by copyrite

There's lots of luddites out there that refuse to read anything but an honest-to-god-hold-in-your-hands book. Does that mean this board shouldn't exist?

(We have two Hogan's Heroes fans in this house.

)

I know someone like that. Refuses to even read a single ebook because it's not made of dead tree and looks down on anyone who does. As soon as we start talking about books he's already ranting about ebooks. He's also a very depressed person...coincidence?

GtrsRGr8 · 09-13-2016, 11:37 PM

I just saw this quote: "Fiction reveals truth that reality obscures."--Ralph Waldo Emerson

I would like to find the source (in Emerson's writings or orations) of that quote and see if he expands upon that thought. I might gain a better appreciation of the genre of fiction, including historical fiction.

But I never have thought much of Emerson or his buddy Thoreau. I should say, of their transcendentalism, not them personally.

09-13-2016, 12:04 PM	#79
molloee Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 132086 Join Date: Sep 2016 Device: Kindle 3	To add a little stern recordkeeping to a thread that has already had some wild swings of mood, here is some historical fiction that would have to be thrown out with the bathwater, if we were to abandon the game altogether. I have limited myself to books and serials that were written by authors who were not alive during the time concerned, even as an infant: 1. War and Peace by Tolstoy —Actually, I'll stop at one. I had Dumas, Dickens, Hugo, Faulkner, Stevenson, George Eliot, Hawthorne, and Charlotte Brontë lined up on the top of my head, but any rule that excludes War and Peace is a rule to toss. You may as well say the whole game of fiction should be abandoned. Last edited by molloee; 09-13-2016 at 12:07 PM.

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4691mls Wizard Posts: 2,776 Karma: 30081762 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US Device: ALL DEVICES ARE STOCK: Kobo Clara, Tolino Shine 2, Sony PRS-T3, T1	But of course modern fiction is all perfectly accurate - we can learn exactly what being an attorney, policeman, doctor, etc. is like from watching TV shows about them

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,631 Karma: 204624552 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Impressive first post! (though a bit shorter than it was originally )

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4691mls Wizard Posts: 2,776 Karma: 30081762 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US Device: ALL DEVICES ARE STOCK: Kobo Clara, Tolino Shine 2, Sony PRS-T3, T1	I'm happy to read long posts as long as they are broken into paragraphs. Just don't post huge photos, or links to pirated books, and you should be fine!

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GtrsRGr8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,334 Karma: 27815322 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Southeastern U.S., ya'll Device: Kindle; Kindle (10.1.1) for PC; Kindle Cloud Reader	I just saw this quote: "Fiction reveals truth that reality obscures."--Ralph Waldo Emerson I would like to find the source (in Emerson's writings or orations) of that quote and see if he expands upon that thought. I might gain a better appreciation of the genre of fiction, including historical fiction. But I never have thought much of Emerson or his buddy Thoreau. I should say, of their transcendentalism, not them personally.