Hugo, Campbell and Alfie Awards

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You must have a very different definition of "shot" than I do (unless you're talking about a different irrelevant thread). And it's Sad or Rabid--no Dead.

What exactly do you think the Alphie Award is, but a shot at the Sad/Rabid/Dead puppies?

As far as Sad, Rabid or dead, I really don't particularly care what they call themselves. I get why some authors are upset at the clique that runs the Hugos, but I do my voting with the books that I buy and have trouble getting all worked up over awards that I find increasingly irrelevant to my reading choices.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

What exactly do you think the Alphie Award is, but a shot at the Sad/Rabid/Dead puppies?

If it is, then it's Martin's shot at them. And no concern of mine or this thread. Take it up with him.

Originally Posted by pwalker8

and have trouble getting all worked up over over awards

Me too. And hence my preference to not bother discussing it (even though others keep bringing it up).

[DiapDealer]

Best Professional Artist : Julie Dillon

Big fan of Dillon's art, by the way.

[JSWolf]

http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...6-hugo-awards/

[meeera]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

Perhaps more people would have been willing if the OP hadn't taken a shot at the Dead Puppies,

That "shot" is in your imagination.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by meeera

That "shot" is in your imagination.

Consider how you would have reacted if someone had posted a list of Hugo award winners and then gushed about Larry Correia's blog about books that were pushed off the nominee list by the Hugo clique (assuming he had one).

It may not have been intentional, but I'm pretty sure it's not in my imagination, or are you claiming to be a sad puppy fan?

[DiapDealer]

Who "gushed"? Sounded to me like a fairly succinct account of what the awards were and who won them.

Martin's a huge name in the industry. Probably bigger than the Hugos and all of the various Puppy factions put together. Why not discuss the outcome of his awards?

[Cinisajoy]

Hmmm,
Posted awards and winners.
I don't see any shots fired.
I would like to thank the OP for bringing some books to my attention.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Who "gushed"? Sounded to me like a fairly succinct account of what the awards were and who won them.

Martin's a huge name in the industry. Probably bigger than the Hugos and all of the various Puppy factions put together. Why not discuss the outcome of his awards?

No reason not to, but don't complain about people discussing the elephant in the room when you do.

[DiapDealer]

Whatever. You're just reaching for stuff to argue about now.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Whatever. You're just reaching for stuff to argue about now.

Not really, I wasn't the one who was rhetorically wondering why people weren't honoring the OP's request not to mention the sad/rabid puppies. In my opinion, it was because the OP brought it up first.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by DrNefario

Edit: I guess I also need to read the Retro Hugo winner, Slan by AE Van Vogt.

If you're going to read one Van Vogt, that's the one.

Van Vogt specialized in complex "wheels within wheels within wheels" plots. He once described his writing method in an interview, where he said his practice was to veer off in a new direction every 800 words. It resulted in works which fell apart if looked at too closely, but he relied on proceeding at a breakneck pace that prevented you from doing so.

Slan is the story of Jommy Cross, who is ten years old when we meet him. Jommy is a Slan, which are arguably the next step in human evolution. They are stronger, healthier, smarter, and heal faster from illness or injury than normal humans, and they can read minds. They are a minority hated and feared by normals. Earth is controlled by the dictator Keir Gray, who uses the threat supposedly posed by Slans as a means of maintaining power.

Jommy's late father was a scientist who made a development that might prove the key the overthrowing Kier Gray and insuring the safety of Slans, which he hid away in catacombs under Gray's palace. Jommy's mother tells him he must someday enter the catacombs and recover his father's legacy. She is promptly killed by Gray's secret police, and Jommy becomes an orphan who must survive and somehow accomplish his mission.

Slan falls apart if looked at too closely too, but it's shorter, less complicated, and under better control than most of Van Vogt's work, and you can largely suspend disbelief while you read it.
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

As far as Sad, Rabid or dead, I really don't particularly care what they call themselves. I get why some authors are upset at the clique that runs the Hugos, but I do my voting with the books that I buy and have trouble getting all worked up over awards that I find increasingly irrelevant to my reading choices.

There isn't a "clique" that runs the Hugos. The Hugos are a popularity award, nominated for and voted on by the members of the World Science Fiction Convention. The folks who administer the Hugo Awards nomination and voting process are at pains to make it fair and see that all votes are properly counted. (I know various of them personally, and I know what they have to do to make it happen.)

Vote with your wallet, join an upcoming Worldcon as a supporting member, and nominate and vote as you please. Your vote will be counted.
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Dennis

[jgaiser]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

So we're not even going to pretend to try and honor the OP'S wishes then, huh? Sad.

+1

[Joseph J Bailey]

Thank you for bringing some wonderful new books to my attention!

Any book by Neil Gaiman is a good book in my opinion. I am glad to see his name on the list.