The Vent and Rant Thread

[ApK]

My rant for the day is on myself:

I'm pretty savvy when it comes to technical security. I just tried a piece of shareware (well reviewed, but from a company/dev I have no other knowledge about) that interacts with a Google account. Without thinking, I entered one of my primary Google passwords into the App's GUI...not the standard Google "this app want's access" gui.

Ugg. People, do as I say, not as I do. Don't type your passwords into strange software!!

If the software needed to be used that way, and I really wanted it, I should have set up a new, separate account with a special password just for testing, then I could have monitored that new account and password for signs of abuse and fraud.

I have no evidence that anything bad will happen, but it was not worth the risk.

Now I need to change that password, which is annoyingly inconvenient.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by ApK

I have no informed medical opinion, Prof, but It sure sounds like you're right.
Did you and your friend go to the same hospital? Maybe the maternity staff there needs to retire.
Your story makes me appreciate the way our hospital handled my wife and our two kids. They didn't act like yours!

Different hospitals. There has been a real push to limit C Sections and increase breast feeding. I don't object to either in principal but the way it is being handled in some places is just wrong. And the tone of articles on either subject is very negative towards people who chose not to or cannot breast feed or need a C Section.

[CRussel]

Originally Posted by ApK

My rant for the day is on myself:

I'm pretty savvy when it comes to technical security. I just tried a piece of shareware (well reviewed, but from a company/dev I have no other knowledge about) that interacts with a Google account. Without thinking, I entered one of my primary Google passwords into the App's GUI...not the standard Google "this app want's access" gui.

Ugg. People, do as I say, not as I do. Don't type your passwords into strange software!!

If the software needed to be used that way, and I really wanted it, I should have set up a new, separate account with a special password just for testing, then I could have monitored that new account and password for signs of abuse and fraud.

I have no evidence that anything bad will happen, but it was not worth the risk.

Now I need to change that password, which is annoyingly inconvenient.

Oh, gawd, I know that scenario oooh so well! I make my living writing about and managing computers and I work for a security company. I think I'm pretty savvy, and I am pretty good about understanding _real_ risk (as opposed to perceived risk). But I've been caught out in just the same way a couple of times, each one reminding me, yet again, how easy it is to be careless. And it is SUCH A PAIN to have to go change those core passwords.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

Different hospitals. There has been a real push to limit C Sections and increase breast feeding. I don't object to either in principal but the way it is being handled in some places is just wrong. And the tone of articles on either subject is very negative towards people who chose not to or cannot breast feed or need a C Section.

When I had my youngest, the hospital insisted on a C-section. Vaginal would have killed us both. They also said I couldn't breast feed because they needed to see how much she was eating. We did try pumping but for the first two weeks, she couldn't handle any milk. They tried breast milk and every formula on the market. She broke the hospital record for most diapers changed on a shift.

Now my oldest on the other hand, 9 weeks in and out of labor. From 6 weeks early to 3 weeks late. They finally induced but only because I was 3 cm dilated.

[ProfCrash]

I had a C Section, no problem there for me. I was at 39 weeks and had not dilated at all. My 36 week ultrasound showed him at 8 pounds already, which is why we induced. They tried the first induction drug which did not soften my cervix but caused the Little Man distress. My Doctor was fine with continuing the induction but certain we would end up at a C Section. If he couldn't handle the starter drugs, he was not going to handle Pitosin (sp) Little Man was 10 pounds 2 ounces and never made it into the birth canal so he was only coming via C Section. Thank God my doctors were reading the signs right.

I just wish that Doctors were more focused on case by case decisions and less on statistics. Yes, C Sections to make life easier on the Doctor are wrong but pushing someone to 96 hours of labor and a risky birth is wrong as well.

Just frustrated.

And then reading the crap people post about how C Sections are wrong and how they should be avoided just cause me to scream.

OK, clearly my buttons have been pushed.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by CRussel

Oh, gawd, I know that scenario oooh so well! I make my living writing about and managing computers and I work for a security company. I think I'm pretty savvy, and I am pretty good about understanding _real_ risk (as opposed to perceived risk). But I've been caught out in just the same way a couple of times, each one reminding me, yet again, how easy it is to be careless. And it is SUCH A PAIN to have to go change those core passwords.

The setup instructions actually SAID to create a separate account just for use with the app, but I didn't even slow down long enough for that to register. (the fact that's in the instructions is actually a good sign that there is probably no actual danger from this app, but still....)

The sad thing is, just last night we dropped my wife's laptop at BestBuy for warranty service (I suspect I'll have a rant about THAT before to long, but I'm crossing my fingers....) and the dude wanted her password to put in the notes for the service people. I stopped her from giving it, and I changed it to a temp password for them instead. I KNOW I know better than to give out passwords just because some one asks!

BTW, I don't trust the BestBuy service people. There's nothing especially vulnerable on the laptop, but I would not want them to have a core password plus a browser history. Too temping a target.

ApK

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I had a C Section, no problem there for me. I was at 39 weeks and had not dilated at all. My 36 week ultrasound showed him at 8 pounds already, which is why we induced. They tried the first induction drug which did not soften my cervix but caused the Little Man distress. My Doctor was fine with continuing the induction but certain we would end up at a C Section. If he couldn't handle the starter drugs, he was not going to handle Pitosin (sp) Little Man was 10 pounds 2 ounces and never made it into the birth canal so he was only coming via C Section. Thank God my doctors were reading the signs right.

I just wish that Doctors were more focused on case by case decisions and less on statistics. Yes, C Sections to make life easier on the Doctor are wrong but pushing someone to 96 hours of labor and a risky birth is wrong as well.

Just frustrated.

And then reading the crap people post about how C Sections are wrong and how they should be avoided just cause me to scream.

OK, clearly my buttons have been pushed.

Be glad they didn't just start you on pitocin (sp) like they did 31 years ago.
That stuff hurts. Note back labor and at that hospital you couldn't get up at all.
They also didn't particularly like giving pain meds.
Though when a medical student suffered a side effect to the pitocin, I got pain meds.
Said medical student got a free trip to the ER, pain meds and anti-inflammatories and quite possibly his face x-rayed.
Doctor told him to hold my leg, I had a contraction and proceeded to kick out. Not my fault his cheek was in my foot's path.
I also got a new doctor immediately.
It was at a military hospital.
Glad your big guy was ok.
My not so big guy 7 lbs 13 oz, 24 inches long, wound up with forcep scars.
It wasn't a canal problem, it was he was determined not to come out. I think him and the doctor played hide and seek for about 10 minutes.

[cromag]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

Rant coming...
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When I gave birth I wanted to breast feed. I understand that it is the best alternative for a baby. I wasn't producing any milk and my baby was losing weight. After three days and working with lactations, I had a team of nurses come in my room and harass me because I was not feeding my son often enough and he was losing weight and hungry. The lactation nurses knew that we had a good latch and that we were making an effort, I wasn't producing anything. It took the Pediatrician handing me formula and saying there was nothing wrong with supplementing breast milk with formula to stop the insanity. I probably should have gone down that path earlier but C-section recovery and then hormones and sleep deprivation and I was not at the top of my game. Little Man breast feed and used formula and did just fine. But why the lactation staff never suggested formula when they knew I was feeding him regularly and he was losing weight is beyond me. And I am not the only one with a similar story.
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Obviously I don't know any of the back story but when I hear something like this my first thought is that the staff is too busy to know the individual patients involved ... and, in a hospital setting, that means they're too darn busy.

There are good reasons to encourage breast feeding and vaginal birth, but their are also individual circumstances that must be considered.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by ApK

BTW, I don't trust the BestBuy service people. There's nothing especially vulnerable on the laptop, but I would not want them to have a core password plus a browser history. Too temping a target.

Of course, it is really, really easy to get around that with a LiveUSB.

But then, you are probably safe -- I wouldn't expect the Best Buy service people to be competent enough to know that!

[ApK]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Of course, it is really, really easy to get around that with a LiveUSB.

But then, you are probably safe -- I wouldn't expect the Best Buy service people to be competent enough to know that!

I'm not Sure I follow. You mean liveusb boot to get access to the drive? I'm not worried about that, we gave them access. I just didn't want them having my wife's "real" password.

[eschwartz]

Ever heard of Ophcrack?

Microsoft has traditionally relied on really insecure hashing to "encrypt" your login password. While every other OS in existence has been secure for years and years and years and years. (I can confirm it works up to and including Win7, I don't actually know about Win8/Win10 but why should anything be different?)

Breaking into Linux/OSX requires overwriting the password so you can login. Breaking into Windows involves reversing the hash to find out the login password... assuming you want to, you can of course take the shortcut of just overwriting it.

...

This stuff is easy enough for a script kiddie to do, so you should be safe with Best Buy.

[Rumpelteazer]

I think my (great) grandfather's family must have been terribly short. Our kitchen counter (which I think my grandfather put in) it too low for me. When I cook I always end up with a back ache from having to stand bending forward a little bit.

The sink in the utility room, which is next to my room and which I use, is 76 centimetres high. Dyeing my hair is, again, back breaking. It's just a little bit too high for me to rinse out my whilst sitting on my knees.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by Rumpelteazer

I think my (great) grandfather's family must have been terribly short. Our kitchen counter (which I think my grandfather put in) it too low for me. When I cook I always end up with a back ache from having to stand bending forward a little bit.

Old kitchens... don't get me started I'm glad I don't have to cook at my father's house any more. It has a kitchen that was installed when it was modern to have the ventilation built into the wall, making it look like a cupboard. It swings out when you open the door. (Opened at the bottom, hinged at the top.) So, it looks like this:

Closed

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(That's me, at a the stove )

Open:

|___
|    \   
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Frack that.... it's in my line of sight!

"But we never have any problems", my parents would say.

No, that's because you're 1.60m and 1.69 tall, and I'm 1.80m; and that's just enough to raise my eyesight above the lower edge of that door

[Blossom]

At least you have a kitchen counter. My kitchenette has two small spaces on each side big enough for a two slice toaster. I have to food prep on stove or kitchen table. Washing dishes is a big pain because the sinks are super shallow. Stove has no window in the door it's that old and cooks everything uneven. Only two burners work.

The only thing I like about my kitchen is the fridge. It's has a large freezer but in the past we had alot of power outages so I've stopped buying in bulk.

The shelves in the cabinets are so small we have to use a bookcase for pantry food.

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[ApK]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Ever heard of Ophcrack?

Ah, I get you. I remember stuff like that from the NT says. Still works, eh? Sad.
In this case, I changed her pwd, so it would not apply (it can't recover previous pwds, can it? ), but as you say, I was not concerned about that sort of effort, I was concerned about actually giving out the password. That's just Ferris Bueller handing the Ferrari keys to the parking attendant. How can anyone resist trying it? Especially since NOBODY uses totally unrelated random strong pwds for everything.....

https://xkcd.com/936/