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			And while I suspect we may be teasing here,  Mr Van Dyke seems to refer to himself that way.  This is from the book excerpt on the above audio deal: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 It's like the Leonardo da Vinci thing. As IssyBird pointed out, "da Vinci" is not a last name! It means "from Venci (probably Venice)." That was the first error, of many errors, in the book The Da Vinci Code--the error was on the very cover of the book! But, I've given up on people getting that straight after I got bad reviews on a comment that I made about that on a new book seller's website, about The Da Vinci Code. Sigh. Last edited by GtrsRGr8; 04-19-2016 at 07:00 PM.  | 
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			Well, yeah,  originally that was true.  Leonardo didn't have a last name.  But by the 20th century,  people USED last names,  and "Van Dyke"  had become a last name!
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 But in da Vinci's day, "da Vinci" was not a proper name. It meant "of Venci." In his time and place--like many, many times and places--that's often how different people with the same given name were distinguished from one another, before the common use of surnames. For example, "Which Leonardo are you talking about? The Leonardo of Rome or the Leonardo of Venice?" "Oh, I'm talking about Leonardo of Venice (Leonardo da Vinci)." Illustrations of your point: - "Ericson" (Scandinavia)--now a surname, but originally meant "son of Eric." - All of the "O'-s" of Irish surnames (O'Malley, O'Riley, "O'Hara, et al.). The "O'" originally meant "of," and was not, then, a surname. But many, maybe most, maybe all, became the surnames that we know today.  | 
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