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Old 04-05-2016, 09:47 PM   #91
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Don't quote me on this but i think for black and white content the liquavista appears the same as eink,the problem with the first gen liquavista displays was its very poor colour representation,Amazon didn't buy the company and spend all these years to develop and release something that isn't a substantial improvement over the previous generation.

I don't think it's going to be as good as the best lcd's or amoled screens out there in terms of colour 'pop' but as long as it doesn't look washed out and utter crap then it should be fine.
Liquavista color doesn't pop like LCD but it is more saturated and much faster than eink. It is good enough for full motion video but not really suitable for tablets.

B&W resolution runs 400dpi or better.

Amazon has a patent for a dual layer display with medium resolution color atop high resolution b&w which would work well in an ebook reader.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:28 PM   #92
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Liquavista color doesn't pop like LCD but it is more saturated and much faster than eink. It is good enough for full motion video but not really suitable for tablets.

B&W resolution runs 400dpi or better.

Amazon has a patent for a dual layer display with medium resolution color atop high resolution b&w which would work well in an ebook reader.
Interesting thanks for the info,I didn't know liquavista was inherently faster ,upon watching THIS I realised its not correct to simply call this technology colour e-ink .

The part where there was animation running fluidly within the book I though was quite exceptional,guess there's a lot more to these screens than just colour.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:08 PM   #93
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Some of these rumors are making me nervous. I cannot be without some kind of buttons and I must have e-ink. That liquidvista thing, not sure if the words and letters would sit on the top of the display as they do with the Voyage.

I didn't like the first Paperwhite for that milk/window view and I can't read on tablet type devices. Its the way e-ink looks that is so great for me to read on. I worry that some other technology would not have that readability for me.

I just always worry that I get left out in the dust.
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Interesting thanks for the info,I didn't know liquavista was inherently faster ,upon watching THIS I realised its not correct to simply call this technology colour e-ink .

The part where there was animation running fluidly within the book I though was quite exceptional,guess there's a lot more to these screens than just colour.
Keep in mind that video is showing a prototype from 2010 so the tech has advanced since then too, or should have.
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Some of these rumors are making me nervous. I cannot be without some kind of buttons and I must have e-ink. That liquidvista thing, not sure if the words and letters would sit on the top of the display as they do with the Voyage.

I didn't like the first Paperwhite for that milk/window view and I can't read on tablet type devices. Its the way e-ink looks that is so great for me to read on. I worry that some other technology would not have that readability for me.

I just always worry that I get left out in the dust.
Well, evenif Amazon introduces a Liquavista kindle, which is mostly wishful thinking so far, they're not dropping the eink models. Plus the things are very durable when you take care of them so you'll be covered for at least a decade.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:39 AM   #96
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I really, really doubt that we're going to see a Liquavista device. The leaked information suggests that an eInk device with an additional battery in the cover is likely to be what's coming.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:25 AM   #97
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I really, really doubt that we're going to see a Liquavista device. The leaked information suggests that an eInk device with an additional battery in the cover is likely to be what's coming.
If Amazon adds audio, they'll need that extra battery.
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I really, really doubt that we're going to see a Liquavista device. The leaked information suggests that an eInk device with an additional battery in the cover is likely to be what's coming.
Battery on the covers, solar charging just sounds like we're running out of ideas.
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:56 AM   #99
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I too doubt that we will be getting a Liquavista device. The most likely scenario to me is that Amazon is going to address accessibility issues. It's expansion into schools faces real difficulties if it does not address such issues. I'm no expert on accessibility, but I do think it likely we will see tts make its return. This alone would presumably be a huge step forward in meeting accessibility requirements. Other issues such as fonts, contrast etc. would presumably be addressed in software.

Having said this, the Amazon acquisition of Liquavista is now some years behind us, and I don't think a commercial product was all that far away even back then. Having read the story of the Echo and Jeff Bezos's insistence on very high standards for that product, I would not be surprised to learn that a commercial product release has been delayed by similar demands. If Amazon were to release such a display now or in the not too distant future it would IMHO give Amazon a huge advantage over its competitors in the dedicated ereader market. The longer it takes to get this technology on the market the mpre likely it is that a competing technology will come along.

Whilst I don't think the most likely scenario is a Liquavista display for the new devices, I would also not be terribly surprised at its appearance. If not, then I don't think it can be that far off. In the meantime I am quite happy reading on my e-ink Voyage and my H2O. I'm saving my money for Liquavista.
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Having said this, the Amazon acquisition of Liquavista is now some years behind us, and I don't think a commercial product was all that far away even back then. Having read the story of the Echo and Jeff Bezos's insistence on very high standards for that product, I would not be surprised to learn that a commercial product release has been delayed by similar demands. If Amazon were to release such a display now or in the not too distant future it would IMHO give Amazon a huge advantage over its competitors in the dedicated ereader market. The longer it takes to get this technology on the market the mpre likely it is that a competing technology will come along.
It would give Amazon an advantage indeed, and it's also possible that they bought the company to prevent others from releasing Liquavista readers which would blow the e-ink Kindle out of the water.

By buying the company, Amazon can keep selling e-ink Kindles, and release the Liquavista version whenever they feel like it.
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But not in a thread about an ereader

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