5.6.5 Jailbreak (closed-kindle) -- released! - Page 58

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 12:40 PM

I'm sure this was already answered a dozen times but I find it pretty hard to filter the info that still applies from the outdated stuff.
What exactly do I have to do to get wireless ssh access to my kindle?
I'm rooted/jailbroken and have kterm installed.
I tried starting sshd, but that apperently isn't installed. I've heard of usbnetwork. Is that needed? Or is it even integrated in the jailbreak/the hotfix?

jjokocha · 03-15-2016, 01:25 PM

does new jailbreak is going to be released to 5.7.3 and should i update my 5.7.2.1 to 5.7.3??

NiLuJe · 03-15-2016, 01:57 PM

@Eisfreak7: You do need USBNetwork. Basic documentation is bundled within.

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 03:12 PM

Okay thanks
With my PW3 I need the "N_k2_dx_k3_install.bin", not the "N_k4" one, correct?

knc1 · 03-15-2016, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisfreak7

Okay thanks
With my PW3 I need the "N_k2_dx_k3_install.bin", not the "N_k4" one, correct?

A PW3 is a PW3, not a K3 (which is a 2011 keyboard device, not a 2015 touchscreen device).
You must be looking at the wrong USBnetwork package.

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 03:21 PM

Ah yes, I accidently clicked on the first one, which is for the older devices. Luckily I at least didn't mindlessly install it, that could have gone bad

NiLuJe · 03-15-2016, 03:44 PM

The packages are device-locked, so it would just have refused to install

.

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 04:02 PM

Thats good to know, and a bit of a relief

Thank you for your work by the way, just got my kindle today and to a big part thanks to you, knc1 and Branch Delay I now truly own a capable linux e-ink device instead of just being able to use an amazon-locked e-reader

Am I correct that everything is running under the root user? I know a kindle isn't an especially security-sensitive device, but that feels wrong anyway.

knc1 · 03-15-2016, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisfreak7

Thats good to know, and a bit of a relief

Thank you for your work by the way, just got my kindle today and to a big part thanks to you, knc1 and Branch Delay I now truly own a capable linux e-ink device instead of just being able to use an amazon-locked e-reader

Am I correct that everything is running under the root user? I know a kindle isn't an especially security-sensitive device, but that feels wrong anyway.

No - not everything.
Most things "GUI" are running as "framework" -
But a lot is still running as 'root'.

Security sensitive?
You just visited a web-site that caused software on your Kindle to be run as 'root' didn't you?

Amazon/Lab126 thought they had us under control when they started running large portions of the firmware as a user OTHER THAN 'root'.

Ah, the power of Open Source software -
NiLeJe took the source to the standard 'su' (Switch User) utility and patched it so that it did not do any password lookups.
(Which is how KUAL (framework:javauser) can run scripts as 'root').
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Lab126.

Say again: "What security" ?

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 07:27 PM

Okay thats nice to know

I did, but at least I did so conciously and with a chance to vet the source

And just because I have one soring wound that doesn't mean I want more.

I think its weired amazon tries this "hard" to stop users from taking full control of their devices. Sure, they want to lock us in their ecosystems. But I don't think the portion of users considering a jailbreak is really significant enough to hurt them.

They concept of running everything as root just "feels" wrong, so I'm happy thats not the case^^

knc1 · 03-15-2016, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisfreak7

Okay thats nice to know

I did, but at least I did so conciously and with a chance to vet the source

And just because I have one soring wound that doesn't mean I want more.
- - - -

This thread has picked up a lot of posts, so you may have missed it -
You could have kept everything 'on device' -
no need to trust anything that you can't look at before use -

Edit:
Using only the contents of the zip file and the Kindle to be jailbroken (no networking), see:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...73#post3265373

Eisfreak7 · 03-15-2016, 07:59 PM

I did read the source (but of course I could only pray that the payload itself will not eat my kitten, since I have no idea how the kindle cpu operates). I did the dns-redirect method.
Maybe I didn't express myself properly, English isn't my first language

knc1 · 03-15-2016, 09:32 PM

I really was only commenting on your (very real) concerns for other readers of this thread in the future.

If someone else is also concerned about using a network public site (the two mentioned in the directions are in Canada and China) that they do not control the content of . . . .
OR
If setting up an 'in house' network is too challenging. . . .

There is another way - requiring only the contents of the zip archive and the Kindle to be jailbroken, see:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...73#post3265373
(Another one of our regular contributors - with even less free time.)

Note: I made a couple of errors in my post - I'll fix that now.

Eisfreak7 · 03-16-2016, 05:55 AM

Ah okay, thanks again

Glorfindel · 03-16-2016, 12:24 PM

Could the method that doesn't need a network be added to the first post?
(https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...373&postcount= for reference)

03-15-2016, 12:40 PM	#856
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	I'm sure this was already answered a dozen times but I find it pretty hard to filter the info that still applies from the outdated stuff. What exactly do I have to do to get wireless ssh access to my kindle? I'm rooted/jailbroken and have kterm installed. I tried starting sshd, but that apperently isn't installed. I've heard of usbnetwork. Is that needed? Or is it even integrated in the jailbreak/the hotfix? Last edited by Eisfreak7; 03-15-2016 at 12:52 PM.

03-15-2016, 09:32 PM	#868
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	I really was only commenting on your (very real) concerns for other readers of this thread in the future. If someone else is also concerned about using a network public site (the two mentioned in the directions are in Canada and China) that they do not control the content of . . . . OR If setting up an 'in house' network is too challenging. . . . There is another way - requiring only the contents of the zip archive and the Kindle to be jailbroken, see: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...73#post3265373 (Another one of our regular contributors - with even less free time.) Note: I made a couple of errors in my post - I'll fix that now. Last edited by knc1; 03-15-2016 at 09:36 PM.

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Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	Okay thanks With my PW3 I need the "N_k2_dx_k3_install.bin", not the "N_k4" one, correct?

03-15-2016, 03:21 PM	#861
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	Ah yes, I accidently clicked on the first one, which is for the older devices. Luckily I at least didn't mindlessly install it, that could have gone bad

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NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	The packages are device-locked, so it would just have refused to install .

03-15-2016, 04:02 PM	#863
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	Thats good to know, and a bit of a relief Thank you for your work by the way, just got my kindle today and to a big part thanks to you, knc1 and Branch Delay I now truly own a capable linux e-ink device instead of just being able to use an amazon-locked e-reader Am I correct that everything is running under the root user? I know a kindle isn't an especially security-sensitive device, but that feels wrong anyway.

03-15-2016, 07:27 PM	#865
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	Okay thats nice to know I did, but at least I did so conciously and with a chance to vet the source And just because I have one soring wound that doesn't mean I want more. I think its weired amazon tries this "hard" to stop users from taking full control of their devices. Sure, they want to lock us in their ecosystems. But I don't think the portion of users considering a jailbreak is really significant enough to hurt them. They concept of running everything as root just "feels" wrong, so I'm happy thats not the case^^

03-15-2016, 07:59 PM	#867
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	I did read the source (but of course I could only pray that the payload itself will not eat my kitten, since I have no idea how the kindle cpu operates). I did the dns-redirect method. Maybe I didn't express myself properly, English isn't my first language

03-16-2016, 05:55 AM	#869
Eisfreak7 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: Kindle PW 3	Ah okay, thanks again

03-16-2016, 12:24 PM	#870
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Could the method that doesn't need a network be added to the first post? (https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...373&postcount= for reference)