New Voyage coming in November _ rumour [FALSE]

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Too late for the holidays. Hanukkah starts December 6. So that's not enough time to announce and for a lot of people to get in time.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

June 30 is not near a gift giving holiday like Hanukkah or Christmas. When have you known Amazon to release a new Kindle that wasn't released in time to get for the December holidays of the year of release? You havn't because that's not how Amazon works. Besides, Amazon could be flooded with returns and complaints if they did that.

I'm flattered you feel my holiday is that important.

But I'm afraid you are laboring under a (typical) delusion.
Chanukah is NOT a holiday-of-giving-gifts.

It is a holiday in the sense that it is a religious celebration of a time in our history when we almost died, but didn't.
As is oft mentioned: "They tried to kill us, we survived, let's eat." Not "let's give each other gifts".


The secularization of Christmas hasn't hit us yet, and I don't anticipate it ever will.

Of course, Jews are cheap, right? We'll buy things whenever they are on sale...

Speaking of which, one of my favorite times of the year just passed by recently the Holiday of Sale-Price Chocolate.

[dordale]

Originally Posted by Vmurph

Actually, now that I think of it, it is a different model. The original K4 had buttons and no touch screen. The K5 removed the buttons and added a touch screen.

It makes no sense to me that they discontinued the Touch and then turned the K4 into a Touch. Why not just discontinue the K4 and lower the price of the Touch? That's basically what it amounted to.

The K5 released in September 2012 as referred to in your list wasn't a touch Kindle-it was as Nate said the same basic Kindle with buttons and no touch screen--just black instead of gray.
The basic Kindle with Touch was released in October of 2014 (about the same time the Voyage was released).

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I'm flattered you feel my holiday is that important.

But I'm afraid you are laboring under a (typical) delusion.
Chanukah is NOT a holiday-of-giving-gifts.

It is a holiday in the sense that it is a religious celebration of a time in our history when we almost died, but didn't.
As is oft mentioned: "They tried to kill us, we survived, let's eat." Not "let's give each other gifts".


The secularization of Christmas hasn't hit us yet, and I don't anticipate it ever will.

Of course, Jews are cheap, right? We'll buy things whenever they are on sale...

Speaking of which, one of my favorite times of the year just passed by recently the Holiday of Sale-Price Chocolate.

Did you do the Holiday of Half-price candies? We did that one.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Did you do the Holiday of Half-price candies? We did that one.

Chocolate and other primary sources of luscious sweetness.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Chocolate and other primary sources of luscious sweetness.

You share your chocolate. I'll share the Starburst and Skittles.

[Vmurph]

Originally Posted by dordale

The K5 released in September 2012 as referred to in your list wasn't a touch Kindle-it was as Nate said the same basic Kindle with buttons and no touch screen--just black instead of gray.
The basic Kindle with Touch was released in October of 2014 (about the same time the Voyage was released).

My point was that I merely copied the release dates directly from Wikipedia. I didn't bother to edit the kindle names. And in THAT post, I never said the "K5" was a different model. I was just copying and pasting dates.

It was only later that I said that the K5 in general (not the one on Wikipedia's list) is technically a different model than the K4. I wasn't debating whether the name used on Wikipedia's list was accurate. I was really just addressing the implication that there's no such thing as a K5.

I believe there is. Maybe not the one released in 2012 (but that's Wikipedia's error, not mine), but a K5 does indeed exist and is a different model than K4.

[chanfm]

I am surprised that Amazon has not yet offered a substantial Black Friday discount for the KV. Maybe next year I guess......

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I'm flattered you feel my holiday is that important.

But I'm afraid you are laboring under a (typical) delusion.
Chanukah is NOT a holiday-of-giving-gifts.

It is a holiday in the sense that it is a religious celebration of a time in our history when we almost died, but didn't.
As is oft mentioned: "They tried to kill us, we survived, let's eat." Not "let's give each other gifts".


The secularization of Christmas hasn't hit us yet, and I don't anticipate it ever will.

Of course, Jews are cheap, right? We'll buy things whenever they are on sale...

Speaking of which, one of my favorite times of the year just passed by recently the Holiday of Sale-Price Chocolate.

And once again, I find your answer completely out of line, on many levels. Jon knows very well indeed what Hannukah is, he might know it better than you do. He is right in implying that Hannukah, as any other festive day, whether in the jewish or gentile calendar, is used for marketing and promotion theses days. I know enough families with kids exchanging presents on Hannukah (and again at Xmas, and again on Reyes. There you are.).

As for you: Verter zol men vegn un nit tseyln.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I'm flattered you feel my holiday is that important.

But I'm afraid you are laboring under a (typical) delusion.
Chanukah is NOT a holiday-of-giving-gifts.

It is a holiday in the sense that it is a religious celebration of a time in our history when we almost died, but didn't.
As is oft mentioned: "They tried to kill us, we survived, let's eat." Not "let's give each other gifts".


The secularization of Christmas hasn't hit us yet, and I don't anticipate it ever will.

Of course, Jews are cheap, right? We'll buy things whenever they are on sale...

Your holiday? Jon is also Jewish; it's just as much his holiday as it is yours.

[disconnected]

Originally Posted by Vmurph

Not according to Wikipedia. The Keyboard was released in 2010, but without special offers. Then a special offers version was released in 2011 for wifi and a few weeks later, for 3G.

* Kindle Keyboard
: August 27, 2010

* Kindle Keyboard (w/special offers)

Wi-Fi: May 3, 2011

3G: May 25, 2011


Umm...I didn't say it was a different model. Just another release date.

That date for the 3G KK definitely isn't right. I just looked up my invoice at Amazon --

Shipped on September 27, 2010
Items Ordered Price
1 of: Kindle 3G Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 6" Display, Graphite, 3G Works Globally - Latest Generation
Sold by: Amazon Digital Services, Inc.
Condition: New
$189.00


Edit: Looking at the list again I think they 2010 date is meant to include both models. The special offers versions in 2011 had to be listed separately because the dates differ.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by aceflor

And once again, I find your answer completely out of line, on many levels.

Once again, huh?
If you truly think that answer is so utterly beyond the pale, go ahead and report my post.

Jon knows very well indeed what Hannukah is, he might know it better than you do.

Maybe he very well knows it. Maybe he knows it well.

I doubt you have valid grounds for supposing he knows it "better than I do" -- I don't generally rank my knowledge of Jewish paraphernalia against other Jews, but content myself with knowing it "pretty darn well".

Shkoyach on getting in, um, some sort of dig at my vs. JSWolf's comparative Jewish educations?

He is right in implying that Hannukah, as any other festive day, whether in the jewish or gentile calendar, is used for marketing and promotion theses days.

Marketing and promotion by who? And for what end?

I know enough families with kids exchanging presents on Hannukah (and again at Xmas, and again on Reyes. There you are.).

You want to tell me that families celebrate both Chanukah and Christmas and Reyes, and that I should count them as celebrating my holiday?

At least people who celebrate Christmas (with gift-giving no less) are genuinely celebrating their holiday. When they start nicking other religions' holidays and celebrating both, my oh my, what overwhelming yashrus.
They would be just as happy celebrating the secular opportunity of exchanging gifts at any time of the year.

So... crass commercialism at its finest. Darn! I guess you were right after all!

BUT ANYWAY.

I doubt they will buy a Kindle at Chanukah and then another of the exact same model a month later at Christmas, for the same person.
So Amazon might as well save the buzz for the Christmas buying season.

As for you: Verter zol men vegn un nit tseyln.

Very nice, you know Yiddish. You are now worthy of making your point.

...

What sheichus?

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Your holiday? Jon is also Jewish; it's just as much his holiday as it is yours.

Well, sorry for not knowing Jon is Jewish.

I don't recall ever being given a reason to think he is Jewish, but I know he likes to get upset on other peoples' behalf, and I assumed this was yet more of the same.
So I jumped to a(n IMHO reasonable) conclusion, given my knowledge, and I was wrong.

[Cinisajoy]

I know Chanukah and Christmas and Kwanzaa but what is Reyes?
I also know GiftMas but I am not celebrating any of them.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

I know Chanukah and Christmas and Kwanzaa but what is Reyes?
I also know GiftMas but I am not celebrating any of them.

I had to look up Reyes on Wikipedia myself.

Apparently it is a Christian holiday celebrating the Gifts of the Magi, hence the gifts I suppose.

But it doesn't seem to be well-known -- enough to justify a new Holiday of Sales, at least.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I had to look up Reyes on Wikipedia myself.

Apparently it is a Christian holiday celebrating the Gifts of the Magi, hence the gifts I suppose.

But it doesn't seem to be well-known -- enough to justify a new Holiday of Sales, at least.

Oh Epiphany or the twelfth day of Christmas.
I knew Epiphany from Catholic School but no gifts given on that day back then.
No, I am not Catholic.