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Old 10-15-2015, 10:29 AM   #16
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The 2.9.2 changelog mentions fixing a reversion bug that affects entity expansion. I think it's been an on-again/off-again problem, though.

I'll look through my email/PMs and find the conversations I had with someone experiencing the issue on Debian (pretty sure it was Doitsu). There were some easily repeatable steps to make the issue manifest within Sigil, if I recall.
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Old 10-15-2015, 10:44 AM   #17
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Hmmm. If only there was some way for someone to create specialty validation routines that could check for known (and/or configurable) issues with specific devices/apps/platforms. And could be distributed as addons. Wouldn't that be cool?
Now...wouldn't that be a time saver!



There would have to be some way for users to edit which problems to look for...like an .ini file or something. Otherwise the plugin developer would have to update anytime a new version was released... maybe a sub-forum where enterprising individuals could post their "recipes"??
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:00 AM   #18
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I was not so much thinking Validate, as BEHAVE (so you can see how bad it looks) A set of (disable/modify) switches in the render engine that the Behave_as selection operates.

The code must W3C Validate, even if the device foos it.
The 'Behave as' view lets you see without having a shelf of test devices
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:20 AM   #19
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I'll look through my email/PMs and find the conversations I had with someone experiencing the issue on Debian (pretty sure it was Doitsu).
Guilty as charged.

I had reported on 04/20/2015 that if you entered text with curly quotes as entities in Sigil 0.8.6, for example:

Code:
Trottle’s Report
and switched to Book View mode, the quotes would be displayed twice:

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Trottle’’s Report
At that time, DiapDealer wasn't able to reproduce this issue with his more recent Linux distro. (I was using Debian 7 at the time and have meanwhile updated to Debian 8.)

The good news is that this problem no longer occurs with Sigil 0.8.9x. I.e. it was either fixed in Sigl or, more likely, by the Debian developers.

@Greg: What Linux distro/version are you using?

Also enter the following command in a terminal and post the results as a spoilered list.

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 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/share/sigil ldd /usr/local/share/sigil/sigil-real
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:24 AM   #20
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I was not so much thinking Validate, as BEHAVE (so you can see how bad it looks) A set of (disable/modify) switches in the render engine that the Behave_as selection operates.

The code must W3C Validate, even if the device foos it.
The 'Behave as' view lets you see without having a shelf of test devices
Ahhh. A rendering simulation would be pretty tough to pull off (without actually incorporating RMSDK and KindlePreviewer and whatnot).
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Ahhh. A rendering simulation would be pretty tough to pull off (without actually incorporating RMSDK and KindlePreviewer and whatnot).
yeah.

Seeing if there were any known gotcha's for each system - and recommended workarounds? - would be huge enough!
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@Greg: Are you running a 32-bit or 64-bit system?

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Old 10-15-2015, 01:08 PM   #23
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Hi Greg,

One easy way to see what version of libxml2 you have installed on your system is to do the following in a terminal.

cd /usr/lib
find ./ -name "libxml2*"


For me this shows:

libxml2.so.2.9.1 as the full versioned library name.

Hope this helps,

KevinH
Thanks Kevin. I ran those commands and this is what it showed:

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gregg@LG:~/Desktop$ cd /usr/lib
gregg@LG:/usr/lib$ find ./ -name "libxml2*"
./i386-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2.9.2
./i386-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2
./x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2.9.2
./x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2
./x86_64-linux-gnu/girepository-1.0/libxml2-2.0.typelib
gregg@LG:/usr/lib$
So I guess I have libxml2.so.2.9.2 but I don't know what this means in regard to whether it would be causing the bugginess with creating the additional nbsps.
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The 2.9.2 changelog mentions fixing a reversion bug that affects entity expansion. I think it's been an on-again/off-again problem, though.

I'll look through my email/PMs and find the conversations I had with someone experiencing the issue on Debian (pretty sure it was Doitsu). There were some easily repeatable steps to make the issue manifest within Sigil, if I recall.
Trying to figure out what changed in which of about 8 different Debian and Ubuntu OSes (and which versions should be used) isn't my idea of fun especially since I never bothered to learn how they instituted pkgrel versions but it doesn't seem to be entirely straightforward...

And man, all the odd patching Debian does for ill-defined reasons doesn't make things any easier. Which I assume is the reason for the problem anyway.
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And man, all the odd patching Debian does for ill-defined reasons doesn't make things any easier. Which I assume is the reason for the problem anyway.
That's a big part of the problem, yes. There's lots of different patched versions of the same base version floating around out there in repo-land. If I can get back to creating a binary Linux installer for Sigil, I should be able to distribute a version of libxml2 that doesn't suffer from this issue. It won't help those who live and die by their distro's package management system, but at some point, you just want the damn thing to work for everybody, you know? Sending the issues upstream for fixing is all fine and dandy in theory. But users don't seem to enjoy the theoretical bugfixes in their favorite software as much as they do the real bugfixes, for some reason.

@Greg: short of putting a bug-free older version of libxml2 in your /usr/local/share/sigil directory, there's not a lot you can do (unless you want to do a lot of custom compiling and potentially mess up your system libs).

I had a 32/64-bit version that worked well for Doitsu when he had the problem. It may get you through until your distro gets enough complaints and patches the libxml2 in their repos. I'll see if I can track it down.
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Hi,

To make matters worse, Qt XML libraries are linked to your external libxm2 so my fear is that it is not a buggy version so much as it is a mismatch between the version the source of QXml in Qt was built for and the version on the person's system.

I certainly hope libxml2 2.9.2 has not put back in broken behaviour just because someone else called it a reversion!

Arrggh!

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Have you tried running it through FlightCrew and or epubcheck and have you flipped through the start of each chapter to make sure it looks correct?

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It passed Flight Crew and epubcheck. All the chapter starts look correct.
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@KevinH -- any word on which libxml2 versions are actually buggy?
Is the latest libxml2 2.9.2+dfsg1-3 in Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet (IIRC @Gregg you are on Kubuntu 15.04) a known good version?
Hey eschwartz. Yeah, it's Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid but it's Xubuntu and as far as I know the version is fine. I've never had any issues.
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Guilty as charged.

@Greg: What Linux distro/version are you using?
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Also enter the following command in a terminal and post the results as a spoilered list.

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 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/share/sigil ldd /usr/local/share/sigil/sigil-real
Ha ha--I had to Google "spoilered." Thanks.

Spoiler:
gregg@LG:/usr/lib$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/share/sigil ldd /usr/local/share/sigil/sigil-real
linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007ffd597fc000)
libQt5Widgets.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Widgets.so.5 (0x00007f040ead6000)
libQt5PrintSupport.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5PrintSupport.so.5 (0x00007f040e866000)
libQt5WebKit.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5WebKit.so.5 (0x00007f040c298000)
libQt5WebKitWidgets.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5WebKitWidgets.so.5 (0x00007f040c055000)
libQt5Network.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Network.so.5 (0x00007f040bcf0000)
libQt5Concurrent.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Concurrent.so.5 (0x00007f040baea000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f040b8cc000)
libQt5Gui.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Gui.so.5 (0x00007f040b14b000)
libQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Core.so.5 (0x00007f040aa0f000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f040a700000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f040a3f8000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f040a1e2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0409e18000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0409bc6000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f04098b7000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f040957e000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007f0409376000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f040915b000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007f0408f51000)
libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007f0408d4e000)
libicui18n.so.53 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libicui18n.so.53 (0x00007f0408902000)
libicuuc.so.53 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libicuuc.so.53 (0x00007f0408577000)
libxslt.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxslt.so.1 (0x00007f040833a000)
libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2 (0x00007f0407f71000)
libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f0407c87000)
libgstapp-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstapp-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f0407a7a000)
libgstbase-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstbase-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f0407826000)
libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f0407614000)
libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f04073f0000)
libgstvideo-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstvideo-0.10.so.0 (0x00007f04071d3000)
libQt5Sensors.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Sensors.so.5 (0x00007f0406f93000)
libQt5Positioning.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Positioning.so.5 (0x00007f0406d54000)
libQt5Quick.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Quick.so.5 (0x00007f0406779000)
libQt5Qml.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Qml.so.5 (0x00007f0406164000)
libQt5WebChannel.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5WebChannel.so.5 (0x00007f0405f47000)
libQt5Sql.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5Sql.so.5 (0x00007f0405d07000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00007f0405a6b000)
libQt5OpenGL.so.5 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libQt5OpenGL.so.5 (0x00007f0405813000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f040f35a000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f040560f000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f040540d000)
libffi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffi.so.6 (0x00007f0405205000)
libpcre.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0x00007f0404f98000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f0404d79000)
libicudata.so.53 => /usr/local/share/sigil/libicudata.so.53 (0x00007f04036f1000)
libicuuc.so.52 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicuuc.so.52 (0x00007f0403373000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f040316f000)
liborc-0.4.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liborc-0.4.so.0 (0x00007f0402eeb000)
libexpat.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007f0402cc2000)
libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0 (0x00007f0402a98000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f0402886000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007f0402683000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007f040247d000)
libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007f040227b000)
libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0x00007f0402064000)
libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0x00007f0401e5f000)
libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0x00007f0401c5c000)
libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-present.so.0 (0x00007f0401a59000)
libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0x00007f0401853000)
libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxshmfence.so.1 (0x00007f0401651000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007f040144b000)
libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007f040123e000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f040103a000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f0400e34000)
libicudata.so.52 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicudata.so.52 (0x00007f03ff5c7000)
gregg@LG:/usr/lib$ ^C
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