Is 0.8.4 buggy?

Gregg Bell · 10-14-2015, 07:10 PM

This is the first ebook I've made with 0.8.4. (I've made several others with earlier versions.) On this book the first file I did got corrupted/broken splitting chapters. So I started over on a different computer with a fresh html. Same thing happened at the same spot. Chapter Ten (out of twenty-some).

Then I was able to split the chapters using theduck's suggestion:

Quote:

I insert a sigil_split Marker at the places I want (ctrl-shift-enter (I made a clip)
(Using REGEX when possible)

then press F6 at the end

But when I did that it expanded the number of non-breaking spaces in my chapter breaks, which started as:

*     *      *

and ended up as:

*     & nbsp;    *   &n bsp;      *

And one was even slightly different than that.

I've made five or six ebooks with Sigil and never run into anything funky like this. Before I took theducks' suggestion I religiously followed the User's Manual. It's not like I did anything weird.

So it looks like I'm limping through this book with 0.8.4 but should I be switching to a later version for future ones? (And if so, what's the most reliable version?) And did anybody else encounter this funky stuff with 0.8.4?

theducks · 10-14-2015, 07:39 PM

Greg

many render engines ignore multiple white space
I space the letters using the CSS

My scene break CSS

Code:

.scenebreak {border-bottom: 0;
border-top: 0;
display: block;
font-size: 1.0em;
font-weight: bold;
word-spacing: 1.5em;    
margin: .5em 0;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
}

DiapDealer · 10-14-2015, 07:42 PM

0.8.4 wasn't any buggier than any other version that I know of. It was always pretty solid for me. Though I freely admit that I believe splitting at the cursor in Book View is just asking for trouble eventually.

I refuse to make any sort of edits in Book View, quite frankly.

Actually, from the sound of things, it's likely your system's libxml2 that's buggy. There were other reports of doubling nbsp issues that were traced to flaky versions of libxml2. Any system updates recently?

theducks · 10-14-2015, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

0.8.4 wasn't any buggier than any other version that I know of. It was always pretty solid for me. Though I freely admit that I believe splitting at the cursor in Book View is just askng for trouble eventually.

I refuse to make any sort of edits in Book View, quite frankly.

When it was buggier (1.x), you could count on being bitten in BV

I now use Preview to Locate (click there), and do my stuff in CV.

Note: I run 2 Monitors (one is an old 768x1024= Portrait) which is where Preview lives

KevinH · 10-14-2015, 10:47 PM

Hi Greg,

If this is linux, you may have an old buggy libxml2 shared library on your system. The old buggy version used to double all entities that were nbsp.
You should probably check which version of libxml exists on your system and which is linked into Qt and make sure it is not buggy.

Kevin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregg Bell

This is the first ebook I've made with 0.8.4. (I've made several others with earlier versions.) On this book the first file I did got corrupted/broken splitting chapters. So I started over on a different computer with a fresh html. Same thing happened at the same spot. Chapter Ten (out of twenty-some).

Then I was able to split the chapters using theduck's suggestion:

But when I did that it expanded the number of non-breaking spaces in my chapter breaks, which started as:

*     *      *

and ended up as:

*     & nbsp;    *   &n bsp;      *

Gregg Bell · 10-14-2015, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Greg

many render engines ignore multiple white space
I space the letters using the CSS

My scene break CSS

Code:

.scenebreak {border-bottom: 0;
border-top: 0;
display: block;
font-size: 1.0em;
font-weight: bold;
word-spacing: 1.5em;    
margin: .5em 0;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
}

That's good to know ducks. Don't leave anything to chance. Thanks.

Gregg Bell · 10-14-2015, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

0.8.4 wasn't any buggier than any other version that I know of. It was always pretty solid for me. Though I freely admit that I believe splitting at the cursor in Book View is just asking for trouble eventually.

I refuse to make any sort of edits in Book View, quite frankly.

Actually, from the sound of things, it's likely your system's libxml2 that's buggy. There were other reports of doubling nbsp issues that were traced to flaky versions of libxml2. Any system updates recently?

Thanks Diap. It's weird. I had the problem on two different computers. The first was a billion nbsps in the middle of the html. And now this one is with the doubling in just the areas that already have nbsps to begin with. (the scene splits have some asterisks separated by nbsps)

No, no system updates recently.

Hate to be so needy but I Googled libxml2 and it is thoroughly over my head. Any suggestions on how to check out/remedy this flaky libxml2 thing?

Gregg Bell · 10-14-2015, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

Hi Greg,

If this is linux, you may have an old buggy libxml2 shared library on your system. The old buggy version used to double all entities that were nbsp.
You should probably check which version of libxml exists on your system and which is linked into Qt and make sure it is not buggy.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Two questions: 1) Since I was able to complete the .epub today (I just Replaced all the too many nbsps with the right amount), is it a safe bet that that .epub is sound?

2) Got a link or anything on how to check my libxml as to determine its bugginess? (I am particularly low-tech.)

KevinH · 10-14-2015, 11:17 PM

Hi Greg,

One easy way to see what version of libxml2 you have installed on your system is to do the following in a terminal.

cd /usr/lib
find ./ -name "libxml2*"

For me this shows:

libxml2.so.2.9.1 as the full versioned library name.

Hope this helps,

KevinH

KevinH · 10-14-2015, 11:25 PM

Hi Greg,

Have you tried running it through FlightCrew and or epubcheck and have you flipped through the start of each chapter to make sure it looks correct?

KevinH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregg Bell

Thanks Kevin. Two questions: 1) Since I was able to complete the .epub today (I just Replaced all the too many nbsps with the right amount), is it a safe bet that that .epub is sound?

Notjohn · 10-15-2015, 05:50 AM

8.4 is what I'm using, and I haven't had any problem with it (beyond Preview Pane jumping around, which I never experienced before).

I haven't any ill effect from splitting the book in Book View (it's the only thing I use BV for, now that I have Preview Pane), but I'll try to mend my ways in the future.

JSWolf · 10-15-2015, 06:56 AM

Does word spacing work in ADE? I didn't think it did. I could be incorrect here though.

theducks · 10-15-2015, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Does word spacing work in ADE? I didn't think it did. I could be incorrect here though.

Not really

(I had not check it out enough, obviously. I sure wish Sigil had device behavior sheets that could be invoked to remind us of stuff that won't work )

DiapDealer · 10-15-2015, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Not really

(I had not check it out enough, obviously. I sure wish Sigil had device behavior sheets that could be invoked to remind us of stuff that won't work )

Hmmm. If only there was some way for someone to create specialty validation routines that could check for known (and/or configurable) issues with specific devices/apps/platforms. And could be distributed as addons. Wouldn't that be cool?

eschwartz · 10-15-2015, 10:12 AM

@KevinH -- any word on which libxml2 versions are actually buggy?

Is the latest libxml2 2.9.2+dfsg1-3 in Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet (IIRC @Gregg you are on Kubuntu 15.04) a known good version?

10-14-2015, 07:39 PM	#2
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,912 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Greg many render engines ignore multiple white space I space the letters using the CSS My scene break CSS Code: .scenebreak { border-bottom: 0; border-top: 0; display: block; font-size: 1.0em; font-weight: bold; word-spacing: 1.5em; margin: .5em 0; padding: 0; text-align: center; }

10-14-2015, 07:42 PM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,361 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	0.8.4 wasn't any buggier than any other version that I know of. It was always pretty solid for me. Though I freely admit that I believe splitting at the cursor in Book View is just asking for trouble eventually. I refuse to make any sort of edits in Book View, quite frankly. Actually, from the sound of things, it's likely your system's libxml2 that's buggy. There were other reports of doubling nbsp issues that were traced to flaky versions of libxml2. Any system updates recently? Last edited by DiapDealer; 10-14-2015 at 07:56 PM.

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10-14-2015, 11:17 PM	#9
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,487 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Hi Greg, One easy way to see what version of libxml2 you have installed on your system is to do the following in a terminal. cd /usr/lib find ./ -name "libxml2*" For me this shows: libxml2.so.2.9.1 as the full versioned library name. Hope this helps, KevinH

10-15-2015, 05:50 AM	#11
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,518 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	8.4 is what I'm using, and I haven't had any problem with it (beyond Preview Pane jumping around, which I never experienced before). I haven't any ill effect from splitting the book in Book View (it's the only thing I use BV for, now that I have Preview Pane), but I'll try to mend my ways in the future.

10-15-2015, 06:56 AM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,185 Karma: 144286760 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Does word spacing work in ADE? I didn't think it did. I could be incorrect here though.

10-15-2015, 10:12 AM	#15
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	@KevinH -- any word on which libxml2 versions are actually buggy? Is the latest libxml2 2.9.2+dfsg1-3 in Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet (IIRC @Gregg you are on Kubuntu 15.04) a known good version?

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