Amazon kicking Apple Tv, Chromecast out of store - Page 3

Shane R · 10-02-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

But now there's a public SDK and an App Store, Amazon should just build an app and see what Apple does about it.

Apple will do the same as they did for, oh, Netflix, Google play movies, HBO, et cetera...

They'd let it through.

tubemonkey · 10-02-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Be sure you hook up the toaster to the microwave first. Otherwise you might get sound but no picture.

LOL ...thanks, I forgot about that

Shane R · 10-02-2015, 02:41 PM

There's probably a pretty good reason they're doing this.

Prime is about to get a lot more popular because people are going to want to see the reconstituted Top Gear. Available only from Amazon.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/30/t...on-prime-2016/

It's a good time to push new hardware.

fjtorres · 10-02-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by leebase

I don't see why Amazon would or should carry competitor eBook readers. It's not like Kobo lets you buy books from the Amazon ebook store.

Yet they allow it.
There's usually plenty of non-Kindle eink readers at Amazon.

leebase · 10-02-2015, 04:01 PM

Yes, this is a change in policy for them. I'd hazard a guess it's because Amazon WANTS it's Prime Video available on the Apple tv and Google Chromecast without agreeing to whatever current restriction is preventing them right now.

After all - Netflix, HBO, Hulu are available on Apple Tv, but not Amazon Prime video. I doubt it's Apple just saying "no". It probably has something to do with terms Apple is demanding that Amazon isn't willing to accede to and the rest are.

I had hoped there would be an Amazon Prime app coming for the new Apple Tv as there already iPhone/iPad Prime video apps. This move on Amazon's part is making me wonder if there is more to it than that. And if it is an Apple term/condition that's keeping Amazon at bay -- I really doubt that refusing to sell Apple Tv's will change Apple's stance

Purple Lady · 10-02-2015, 04:32 PM

AFTVnews has an interesting post on why this happened.

http://www.aftvnews.com/understandin...-nexus-player/

One good reason Amazon won't support Chromecast is because they can't have Chromecast on their Fire devices.

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In order for Google Cast to function on Android, the device must have Google Play Services, which is a proprietary background service and API package. In order for device manufacturers to include Google Play Services, they must license the package from Google, which results in contractual limitations being placed on the device. These licenses are the primary way Google maintains an iron grip on Android, despite it being open source.

The restrictions Google enforces around Google Cast and Google Play Services means Amazon can never make their own Fire Phone, Fire TV, and line of Fire tablets compatible with Google Cast or the Chromecast.

ApK · 10-02-2015, 04:41 PM

Interesting situation. I feel like telling Google and Amazon "Girls, girls, you're both evil. Now work it out!" It would better for consumers if they could get along.

Purple Lady · 10-02-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

Interesting situation. I feel like telling Google and Amazon "Girls, girls, you're both evil. Now work it out!" It would better for consumers if they could get along.

One change for me - "Boys, boys, you're both evil. Now work it out!"

tubemonkey · 10-02-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

One change for me - "Boys, boys, you're both evil. Now work it out!"

Are you sure it's not "Kittehs, kittehs, you're both evil. Now work it out!"

fjtorres · 10-02-2015, 06:16 PM

How about:
"Go to your corners and on the count of three, come out swinging."

Purple Lady · 10-02-2015, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Are you sure it's not "Kittehs, kittehs, you're both evil. Now work it out!"

I *was* going to say monkey, monkey but I was being nice. That'll teach me.

Purple Lady · 10-02-2015, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

How about:
"Go to your corners and on the count of three, come out swinging."

Does that translate into monkey, monkey since they swing in trees?

j.p.s · 10-02-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

How about:
"Go to your corners and on the count of three, come out swinging."

How will that change their punches landing on customers and third party vendors?

fjtorres · 10-02-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by j.p.s

How will that change their punches landing on customers and third party vendors?

I'm neither so all I'm interested in the entertainment value.

As I've stated elsewhere, my streamers of choice are XBOX and WDTV live, both of which (for different reasons) are light years ahead of all three products in the catfight.

tubemonkey · 10-02-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I *was* going to say monkey, monkey but I was being nice. That'll teach me.

...the gloves are off and I'm gonna get it now.

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10-02-2015, 02:41 PM	#33
Shane R Fanatic Posts: 518 Karma: 4274548 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: None	There's probably a pretty good reason they're doing this. Prime is about to get a lot more popular because people are going to want to see the reconstituted Top Gear. Available only from Amazon. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/30/t...on-prime-2016/ It's a good time to push new hardware.

10-02-2015, 04:01 PM	#35
leebase Karma Kameleon Posts: 2,976 Karma: 26738313 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: iPad Mini, iPhone X, Kindle Fire Tab HD 8, Walmart Onn	Yes, this is a change in policy for them. I'd hazard a guess it's because Amazon WANTS it's Prime Video available on the Apple tv and Google Chromecast without agreeing to whatever current restriction is preventing them right now. After all - Netflix, HBO, Hulu are available on Apple Tv, but not Amazon Prime video. I doubt it's Apple just saying "no". It probably has something to do with terms Apple is demanding that Amazon isn't willing to accede to and the rest are. I had hoped there would be an Amazon Prime app coming for the new Apple Tv as there already iPhone/iPad Prime video apps. This move on Amazon's part is making me wonder if there is more to it than that. And if it is an Apple term/condition that's keeping Amazon at bay -- I really doubt that refusing to sell Apple Tv's will change Apple's stance

10-02-2015, 04:41 PM	#37
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,402 Karma: 69116640 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	Interesting situation. I feel like telling Google and Amazon "Girls, girls, you're both evil. Now work it out!" It would better for consumers if they could get along.

10-02-2015, 06:16 PM	#40
fjtorres Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000	How about: "Go to your corners and on the count of three, come out swinging."