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Old 06-04-2015, 12:58 AM   #121
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I would have thought that would be OK. Unless it is doing different checks on the result than when an update is found during a sync.
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Sorry for the crosspost, but is there maybe a patch (or one to make) to disable Hyphenation in kepubs?
See my other post.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=257
In Dutch this is done very bad.
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:51 AM   #123
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Sorry for the crosspost, but is there maybe a patch (or one to make) to disable Hyphenation in kepubs?
Hyphenation in kepubs defaults to off, but the default is changed to on if you select full justification from the Aa menu. The `Set kepub hyphenation` patch has an alternative to prevent it being turned on when you select full justification.

However the publisher can override the default in the book's stylesheet, so you might need to remove the -webkit-hyphens property (or set -webkit-hyphens: none;) as well.

Edit: Does the KoboTouchExtended driver turn hyphenation on when it creates the kepub? You might need to change something there too.

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Old 06-04-2015, 05:40 AM   #124
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[QUOTE=GeoffR;3112152]Hyphenation in kepubs defaults to off, but the default is changed to on if you select full justification from the Aa menu. The `Set kepub hyphenation` patch has an alternative to prevent it being turned on when you select full justification.
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I must look in to this, for now it keeps using hyphenation.
I don't understand but if I, in my mind,convert the words that have been cut off it looks like it uses "the english way" they are mostly correct,but in my language (and I think almost every language) hyphenation is done at another way.
It treat the book in my language as an english book making it rather useless for all other languages.
Kickin in an open door: kobo hasn't done this at a smart way.
We are lucky if you keep up the patching,and kepub isn't a wide supported format here.
I can't recall/remember if I use the full justification button.

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Edit: Does the KoboTouchExtended driver turn hyphenation on when it creates the kepub? You might need to change something there too.
No, I don't know if it does by default,but there is no "button" at the modification page of the plugin to turn on or off hyphenation.
Maybe I can set
Code:
p {
  hyphens: none;
}
somewhere in calibre so it would add it to the .css if possible but I don't know exactly how and with my dyslectic it would not be easy to find this.

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Old 06-04-2015, 06:13 AM   #125
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KEPUB automatic hyphenation is broken in English too, it is not just a problem with Dutch.

From what I read in the KoboTouchExtended driver thread the driver has an option to turn on hyphenation when it creates the kepub, so you will need to make sure that option is turned off.

But the publisher might also have turned hyphenation on, so to turn it off you could add something like body,div,p { -webkit-hyphens: none !important; } to the book's stylesheet (which you could do automatically for all books by adding it to kobo_extra.css and enabling the "Modify CSS" option in the driver.)
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:21 AM   #126
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KEPUB automatic hyphenation is broken in English too, it is not just a problem with Dutch.

From what I read in the KoboTouchExtended driver thread the driver has an option to turn on hyphenation when it creates the kepub, so you will need to make sure that option is turned off.

But the publisher might also have turned hyphenation on, so to turn it off you could add something like body,div,p { -webkit-hyphens: none !important; } to the book's stylesheet (which you could do automatically for all books by adding it to kobo_extra.css and enabling the "Modify CSS" option in the driver.)
I am a bit stupid,when you press behave of the plugin,you have to scroll down to see that there are more options.
One of them is turn hyphenation on, but it is not checked (so it must be off) but after using it, I opened the book that was transferred with the KoboTouchExtended and it has an hyphenation.css added to it.
Code:
* {
	-webkit-hyphens: auto;
	-moz-hyphens: auto;
	hyphens: auto;

	-webkit-hyphenate-after: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-before: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-lines: 2;
	hyphenate-after: 3;
	hyphenate-before: 3;
	hyphenate-lines: 2;
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, td {
	-moz-hyphens: none !important;
	-webkit-hyphens: none !important;
	hyphens: none !important;
}
So it looks to me that the plugin does turns hyphenation on,even when that option is unchecked.
So it seems that I have to go back to epub.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:27 AM   #127
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[QUOTE=Nick_1964;3112166][QUOTE=GeoffR;3112152]Hyphenation in kepubs defaults to off, but the default is changed to on if you select full justification from the Aa menu. The `Set kepub hyphenation` patch has an alternative to prevent it being turned on when you select full justification.
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I must look in to this, for now it keeps using hyphenation.
I don't understand but if I, in my mind,convert the words that have been cut off it looks like it uses "the english way" they are mostly correct,but in my language (and I think almost every language) hyphenation is done at another way.
It treat the book in my language as an english book making it rather useless for all other languages.
Kickin in an open door: kobo hasn't done this at a smart way.
We are lucky if you keep up the patching,and kepub isn't a wide supported format here.
I can't recall/remember if I use the full justification button.


No, I don't know if it does by default,but there is no "button" at the modification page of the plugin to turn on or off hyphenation.
The extended driver and Kepub Output plugin has an option "Hyphenate files". If you select that, an extra stylesheet is added to the book and linked to all files in the book. This has several different ways of turning hyphenation on. The contents of the stylesheet is:
Code:
* {
	-webkit-hyphens: auto;
	-moz-hyphens: auto;
	hyphens: auto;

	-webkit-hyphenate-after: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-before: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-lines: 2;
	hyphenate-after: 3;
	hyphenate-before: 3;
	hyphenate-lines: 2;
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, td {
	-moz-hyphens: none !important;
	-webkit-hyphens: none !important;
	hyphens: none !important;
}
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Maybe I can set
Code:
p {
  hyphens: none;
}
somewhere in calibre so it would add it to the .css if possible but I don't know exactly how and with my dyslectic it would not be easy to find this.
What you could do is take the stylesheet above, work out what all the equivalent "off" options are and put them in the kobo_extra.css and turn on the "Modify CSS" option. That will get added to each stylesheet when you send the book.
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The extended driver and Kepub Output plugin has an option "Hyphenate files". If you select that, an extra stylesheet is added to the book and linked to all files in the book. This has several different ways of turning hyphenation on. The contents of the stylesheet is:
Code:
* {
	-webkit-hyphens: auto;
	-moz-hyphens: auto;
	hyphens: auto;

	-webkit-hyphenate-after: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-before: 3;
	-webkit-hyphenate-lines: 2;
	hyphenate-after: 3;
	hyphenate-before: 3;
	hyphenate-lines: 2;
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, td {
	-moz-hyphens: none !important;
	-webkit-hyphens: none !important;
	hyphens: none !important;
}


What you could do is take the stylesheet above, work out what all the equivalent "off" options are and put them in the kobo_extra.css and turn on the "Modify CSS" option. That will get added to each stylesheet when you send the book.
Gonna try to work with this, and do some lookup where the kobo_extra.css must be placed.
Ticking the turn hyphenation on of off in the kobotouchextended plugin doesn't make any sense (it doesn't turn it off) here so I gonna try the kepub output plugin, if that doesn't work I try to use the kobo_extra.css
Thank you again
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:18 AM   #129
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Gonna try to work with this, and do some lookup where the kobo_extra.css must be placed.
The main KoboTouch plugin looks for it in the root directory of the device. But, the extended driver will copy it from somewhere on the PC. I never remember where, but the instruction should be in the first post of its thread.
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Ticking the turn hyphenation on of off in the kobotouchextended plugin doesn't make any sense (it doesn't turn it off) here so I gonna try the kepub output plugin, if that doesn't work I try to use the kobo_extra.css
The option is probably better described as "Force Hyphenation on".
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... the publisher might also have turned hyphenation on, so to turn it off you could add something like body,div,p { -webkit-hyphens: none !important; } to the book's stylesheet (which you could do automatically for all books by adding it to kobo_extra.css and enabling the "Modify CSS" option in the driver.)
Thanks, GeoffR, I will give this a try.
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Still struggling with the Hyphenation part.
When I change and enable the patch for a Glo HD like this ( enable patch and put off Hyphenation forever )
Code:
<Patch>
patch_name = `Set kepub hyphenation`
patch_enable = `yes`
#
# The built-in kepub stylesheet has a line "* { -webkit-hyphenation: auto; }"
# to turn on hyphenation, but it is only used if the device's justification
# button is set to full justification. With this patch enabled hyphenation
# will always/never be turned on, regardless of justification button setting.
#
# (Note that if the publisher has set the hyphenation in the book's stylesheet
# then that will override the built-in stylesheet.)
#
# Alternative 1: Always turn kepub hyphenation on
#replace_bytes = 91FA92, FC F6 7C E5, 01 20 01 20
# Alternative 2: Never turn kepub hyphenation on
replace_bytes = 936B54, FC F6 7C E5, 00 20 00 20
</Patch>
It will give the next error:
e:\Kobo patches\glo\patch_kobo_3150\tools\pa32lsb.exe: line 830 in 'e:\Kobo patc
hes\glo\patch_kobo_3150\3.15.0_source\libnickel.so .1.0.0.patch': replace_bytes m
ismatched data.
ERROR processing e:\Kobo patches\glo\patch_kobo_3150\3.15.0_source\libnicke l.so.
1.0.0.patch

Something is wrong with the value.
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Fixed `Set kepub hyphenation` patch.

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Something is wrong with the value.
Sorry about that, I hadn't updated the address for the 2nd alternative. Here is the fixed patch (I've updated the patch_kobo_3150.zip attachment in post #1 too):
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<Patch>
patch_name = `Set kepub hyphenation`
patch_enable = `no`
#
# The built-in kepub stylesheet has a line "* { -webkit-hyphens: auto; }"
# to turn on hyphenation, but it is only used if the device's justification
# button is set to full justification. With this patch enabled hyphenation
# will always/never be turned on, regardless of justification button setting.
#
# (Note that if the publisher has set the hyphenation in the book's stylesheet
# then that will override the built-in stylesheet.)
#
# Alternative 1: Always turn kepub hyphenation on
replace_bytes = 91FA92, FC F6 7C E5, 01 20 01 20
# Alternative 2: Never turn kepub hyphenation on
#replace_bytes = 91FA92, FC F6 7C E5, 00 20 00 20
</Patch>
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Thank you, now the patch works.

I still keep struggling with the hyphenation.
As I use the extended driver to send the epub to the book and make it a kepub there, I had to disable the KoboTouch driver 2.1.8 from David.
So adding an extra line in : kobo_extra.css does not work. (as in root,does that mean just total root or the .kobo directory ?)

For the koboTouchExtended (Joel 2.3.3) driver there are also extra css files to make, but they are device independant names and directory's and I still search what it would be for the glo hd (what name of the css file and where to put it)

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Hi ! In my early tests, I found that kepub hyphenation could be achieve in a good way by using ''text-align: justify’’ in the css of the book, the calibre plugin ''hyphenate this!’’ (which add shy hyphens) and deactivate justification in aA menu.

This way, the hyphen are 99,9% corrects with all the languages. (NB : the correct language of a book has to be set in metadata of calibre for the plugin to function correctly) without messing with any of the default css on the device.

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For the koboTouchExtended (Joel 2.3.3) driver there are also extra css files to make, but they are device independant names and directory's and I still search what it would be for the glo hd (what name of the css file and where to put it)
The instructions for the KoboTouchExtended driver have me confused too. I think you can just put kobo_extra.css in the root directory of the device like you do with the standard KoboTouch driver, but maybe you need to copy it to the Calibre plugin directory with the device-specific name like kobo_extra_AURAHD.css?
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