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Old 06-04-2015, 05:03 AM   #46
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Don't get carried away. We don't yet know the extent of the problem, other than that it does appear to be limited to Google Play Books. Personally I would rather get my ebooks elsewhere than upgrade ADE beyond 2.0.
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https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1846664

According to this in order to solve the problem you need to upgrade to ADE 4.03 as Google Play is now using the newer ACS4 DRM. Does anyone know if you need to uninstall ADE 2 or if the two versions will coexist on the same machine? Also, if can co-exist when you download a book which version will open automatically?
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According to this in order to solve the problem you need to upgrade to ADE 4.03 as Google Play is now using the newer ACS4 DRM. Does anyone know if you need to uninstall ADE 2 or if the two versions will coexist on the same machine? Also, if can co-exist when you download a book which version will open automatically?
ACS4 DRM is not new. It was certainly around in 2009, and I think was released some time in September 2008. This is nothing new. Also, the relevant part of the post you referred to from the Adobe forums is:
After reading on mobilereads forum I downloaded ADE version 4.03. Now download works
I have seen no mention of the need to upgrade to 4.03 either in this thread or any other mobileread thread. However, I note that 4.03 is the current latest version available for download.

It appears to me that the lesson the Adobe poster took from Mobileread was that the problem was solved by installing a later version, and as a result installed the latest available.

Personally my understanding is that 4.0.3 supports ACS6 and the new Adobe DRM. At some time in the future it is possible that Vendors using ACS6 will turn on an option which will download books with the new DRM to those with versions of ADE which support it, whilst continuing to download books with the old DRM to those with older versions of ADE. Upgrading to 4.0.3 does not therefore seem to be a wonderful idea.
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ACS4 DRM is not new. It was certainly around in 2009, and I think was released some time in September 2008. This is nothing new. Also, the relevant part of the post you referred to from the Adobe forums is:
After reading on mobilereads forum I downloaded ADE version 4.03. Now download works
I have seen no mention of the need to upgrade to 4.03 either in this thread or any other mobileread thread. However, I note that 4.03 is the current latest version available for download.

It appears to me that the lesson the Adobe poster took from Mobileread was that the problem was solved by installing a later version, and as a result installed the latest available.

Personally my understanding is that 4.0.3 supports ACS6 and the new Adobe DRM. At some time in the future it is possible that Vendors using ACS6 will turn on an option which will download books with the new DRM to those with versions of ADE which support it, whilst continuing to download books with the old DRM to those with older versions of ADE. Upgrading to 4.0.3 does not therefore seem to be a wonderful idea.
I didn't see anything here about downloading 4.03 either. Upgrading to 4.03 is a very bad idea. If Google did require 4.03 I would stop buying from them.
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I agree & I certainly do not want to upgrade to ADE 4! However ADE ACS4 DRM does appear to be what Google Play is using. (See the Copyright section in the link below.)

https://play.google.com/about/books/...tml?hl=en&rd=1

I do not believe ADE 2.0 supports ADE ACS4. If I am wrong I stand corrected. All I know is I have ADE 2.0 & I am getting an error message that is preventing me from downloading new books. I am just trying to find a way to fix this. Per my question, does anyone know if both ADE 2 & ADE 4 can coexist? If so, which version will open automatically when you download a book?
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I agree & I certainly do not want to upgrade to ADE 4! However ADE ACS4 DRM does appear to be what Google Play is using. (See the Copyright section in the link below.)

https://play.google.com/about/books/...tml?hl=en&rd=1

I do not believe ADE 2.0 supports ADE ACS4. If I am wrong I stand corrected. All I know is I have ADE 2.0 & I am getting an error message that is preventing me from downloading new books. I am just trying to find a way to fix this. Per my question, does anyone know if both ADE 2 & ADE 4 can coexist? If so, which version will open automatically when you download a book?
I don't think ACS4 means ADE v4. I can't find it right now, but maybe someone else knows.


Edit: ACS4 is Adobe Content Server and uses the old drm. It is compatible with ADE 2. http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/0...ebook-readers/
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Well, if that's the case & ADE 2 is compatible with Google Books seems like it is a Google problem not an ADE problem & upgrading beyond 2.0 will not help. If anyone finds a solution I hope they will post it.
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Well, if that's the case & ADE 2 is compatible with Google Books seems like it is a Google problem not an ADE problem & upgrading beyond 2.0 will not help. If anyone finds a solution I hope they will post it.
That does not necessarily follow. The Adobe poster clearly did have it working with 4.0.3, though there is no mention of whether that poster tried 2.0. I think what is very clear is that the problem is a Google one and not an Adobe one, as even ADE 1.7.2 continues to work with other Vendors according to all reports so far. Also, at the moment you seem to be the only one having these problems with 2.0. This is probably as good a time as any to suggest that any others having similar problems with 2.0 post accordingly. Of course, if you are the only one having these problems with 2.0 then it is likely some peculiarity with your own setup that is to blame. Do you have another machine you can install 2.0 on to test?

Finally, as we don't know what the problem is, it is not impossible that an upgrade to 4.0.3 will fix it. However, as I said in one of my earlier posts, personally I would rather get my ebooks elsewhere than upgrade ADE beyond 2.0. You may feel differently.
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Good Point. Would certainly like to hear if others also having problems with 2.0. And, yes, I do have ADE 2.0 installed on another system. (That one is running Win 7 & the other 8.1)

I am getting the error with both. ADE 2 still works fine with both 3M & OD books. Was not having any problem with Google until yesterday. Only new purchases seem to be affected.
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Good to know ADE 2.0 can be installed alongside ADE 1.7.2
Am still using the older version & prefer it, I believe 2.0 gave me problems with Library books previously.

My recent google play purchase that caused the error in ADE worked with Sony Reader for PC. So that maybe a solution for anyone still having problems or who don't want ADE 2.0
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My recent google play purchase that caused the error in ADE worked with Sony Reader for PC. So that maybe a solution for anyone still having problems or who don't want ADE 2.0
I tried to open the book I purchased last week with Sony, but got an error message there too. Don't remember off hand the exact wording.

Having ADE 2.0 on my laptop and keeping 1.7.2 for everyone other than Google on my PC is a work around I can live with. As others have said if 2.0 stops working, I'll simply stop buying books from them.
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I tried to open the book I purchased last week with Sony, but got an error message there too. Don't remember off hand the exact wording.

Having ADE 2.0 on my laptop and keeping 1.7.2 for everyone other than Google on my PC is a work around I can live with. As others have said if 2.0 stops working, I'll simply stop buying books from them.
Sony still sells ebooks?
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Nope. The Sony Store has been closed for at least a year now, could be more.

Reader for PC updated to access Kobo.
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I tried to open the book I purchased last week with Sony, but got an error message there too. Don't remember off hand the exact wording.

Having ADE 2.0 on my laptop and keeping 1.7.2 for everyone other than Google on my PC is a work around I can live with. As others have said if 2.0 stops working, I'll simply stop buying books from them.



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Reader for PC updated to access Kobo.
I thought so, but library addict said they purchased last week with Sony.
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Sorry, I meant I tried to use the Sony Reader program to open the book I purchased at Google Play when it would not open in ADE 1.7.2.
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