Sigil or Calibre?

exaltedwombat · 05-04-2015, 03:39 PM

What reasons should I give a newcomer to eBook production to learn Sigil rather than choosing the Calibre editor? Or vice versa? Is there an up-to-date comparison anywhere?

eschwartz · 05-04-2015, 03:42 PM

Sigil has a Book View editor, calibre has regex-functions.

Most of the Sigil features have been incorporated into calibre, since everybody liked them so much that they asked for calibre to do the same.

theducks · 05-04-2015, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exaltedwombat

What reasons should I give a newcomer to eBook production to learn the Calibre editor rather than Sigil? Or vice versa? Is there an up-to-date comparison anywhere?

Whats really to learn? (OK, there is differences

)
The coding is still the same for EPUB

What is different is the operation is some of the helper tools
Snippets vs Clips,
saved searches ,
TOC editor (same as used in the Calibre GUI) vs Sigils Heading driven

I still use both. For the way different parts work.
Calibre editor: The Debug and Spell check
Sigil: chained saved searches and saved clips

Toxaris · 05-04-2015, 05:27 PM

To each its own. They are alike. Personally I can't stand the look of Calibre editor the last time I checked it. It might be better now though.

BetterRed · 05-04-2015, 05:32 PM

I'm moving this to the EPUB forum and I'll get someone to merge the Sigil one into it

BetterRed · 05-04-2015, 05:37 PM

Maybe a Sigil Mod merge this thread with this one - https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=260041

@exaltedwombat - posting the same thing in multiple forums is verboten - better to have one conversation

exaltedwombat · 05-04-2015, 05:42 PM

I wanted opinions from both Sigil aficionados and Calibre ones.

exaltedwombat · 05-04-2015, 05:45 PM

Well, OK. But I hoped for opinions from actual users, who would follow one or other forum. Who follows this one?

BetterRed · 05-04-2015, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exaltedwombat

I wanted opinions from both Sigil aficionados and Calibre ones.

You'll get them there - the redirects will hang around for a month and neither forum is that busy

BR

DiapDealer · 05-04-2015, 06:20 PM

I would probably suggest that a newcomer install both and see which appeals to them more. If they're ebook-creation noobs, a feature comparison and various testimonials are going to be fairly useless to them. They don't know what they don't know, after all. Once they're a little more proficient/knowledgeable, they'll be perfectly capable of making their own informed decision (or maybe even find a way to utilize both).

I'm just not convinced newcomers need this kind of help. Especially when the help will eventually take the form of; "choose Team X: there's cake!"

eschwartz · 05-04-2015, 07:06 PM

People who code books and haven't commited to the calibre/Sigil hegemony.

The formats subforums deal with editor-agnostic discussions and are frequented by people whose primary interest is in focusing on the actual book they create.

Best place to ask about the advantages of different editors, IMHO.

Turtle91 · 05-04-2015, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Sigil has a Book View editor, calibre has regex-functions.

Personally, I don't use the Book View to do any editing, and I really like the idea of regex functions, but I haven't gone to the dark side (Calibre) because I don't like their reliance on keyboard shortcuts. I like to point and click... and frankly I don't have enough room on my ice-berg to squeeze any more penguins. (If I force myself to remember any of those commands, I will forget something important like my wife's birthday!)

I've also spent a bit of time setting up Sigil with me personal clips and saved searches. It's too much hassle to transfer them over just for the advanced functionality of regex functions.

I guess you should just have a look at both and see which you are more comfortable using!

theducks · 05-04-2015, 10:03 PM

Moderator Notice
Moving to EPUB where it can be Merged.

Please do not start multiple threads

DiapDealer · 05-04-2015, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Personally, I don't use the Book View to do any editing, and I really like the idea of regex functions, but I haven't gone to the dark side (Calibre) because I don't like their reliance on keyboard shortcuts.

What do you mean by calibre's regex functions relying on keyboard shortcuts? What am I missing?

eschwartz · 05-04-2015, 11:56 PM

Snippets, which is calibre's alternative, to Sigil clips, relies on keyboard shortcuts. Perhaps that is it.

@theducks -- you could've moved this thread into the other, I believe. Too late now...

05-04-2015, 03:39 PM	#1
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Sigil or Calibre? What reasons should I give a newcomer to eBook production to learn Sigil rather than choosing the Calibre editor? Or vice versa? Is there an up-to-date comparison anywhere?

05-04-2015, 05:32 PM	#5
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,010 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	I'm moving this to the EPUB forum and I'll get someone to merge the Sigil one into it Last edited by BetterRed; 05-04-2015 at 05:38 PM.

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05-04-2015, 03:42 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Sigil has a Book View editor, calibre has regex-functions. Most of the Sigil features have been incorporated into calibre, since everybody liked them so much that they asked for calibre to do the same.

05-04-2015, 05:27 PM	#4
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	To each its own. They are alike. Personally I can't stand the look of Calibre editor the last time I checked it. It might be better now though.

05-04-2015, 05:37 PM	#6
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,010 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Maybe a Sigil Mod merge this thread with this one - https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=260041 @exaltedwombat - posting the same thing in multiple forums is verboten - better to have one conversation

05-04-2015, 05:42 PM	#7
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	I wanted opinions from both Sigil aficionados and Calibre ones.

05-04-2015, 05:45 PM	#8
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Well, OK. But I hoped for opinions from actual users, who would follow one or other forum. Who follows this one?

05-04-2015, 06:20 PM	#10
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I would probably suggest that a newcomer install both and see which appeals to them more. If they're ebook-creation noobs, a feature comparison and various testimonials are going to be fairly useless to them. They don't know what they don't know, after all. Once they're a little more proficient/knowledgeable, they'll be perfectly capable of making their own informed decision (or maybe even find a way to utilize both). I'm just not convinced newcomers need this kind of help. Especially when the help will eventually take the form of; "choose Team X: there's cake!"

05-04-2015, 07:06 PM	#11
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	People who code books and haven't commited to the calibre/Sigil hegemony. The formats subforums deal with editor-agnostic discussions and are frequented by people whose primary interest is in focusing on the actual book they create. Best place to ask about the advantages of different editors, IMHO.

05-04-2015, 10:03 PM	#13
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,249 Karma: 61360164 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Moderator Notice Moving to EPUB where it can be Merged. Please do not start multiple threads

05-04-2015, 11:56 PM	#15
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Snippets, which is calibre's alternative, to Sigil clips, relies on keyboard shortcuts. Perhaps that is it. @theducks -- you could've moved this thread into the other, I believe. Too late now...